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Old 12-15-2005, 02:12 AM
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Default I think I\'m beat?

Would you play the hand this way? and do you continue with hand?
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15/30 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 18291633) - Thu Dec 15 01:05:54 EST 2005
Table Table 66815 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: SmartDollar (1505)
Seat 2: MrRings (60)
Seat 3: Proud2BAFish (910)
Seat 4: jamnjay (715)
Seat 5: sw212 (1690)
Seat 6: TCUWilbo (225)
Seat 7: matthewjl (745)
Seat 8: moonrockets (755)
Seat 9: linda12345 (800)
Seat 10: Ch3rryGh0st (595)
sw212 posts small blind (10)
TCUWilbo posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to sw212 [ Kc, Qs ]
matthewjl calls (15)
moonrockets folds.
linda12345 folds.
Ch3rryGh0st folds.
SmartDollar folds.
MrRings folds.
Proud2BAFish raises (30) to 30
jamnjay folds.
sw212 calls (20)
TCUWilbo calls (15)
matthewjl calls (15)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4c, Qh, 8d ]
sw212 checks.
TCUWilbo checks.
matthewjl checks.
Proud2BAFish bets (75)
sw212 raises (225) to 225
TCUWilbo folds.
matthewjl folds.
Proud2BAFish calls (150)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5h ]
sw212 bets (200)
Proud2BAFish raises (400) to 400
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: I think I\'m beat?

I think I'd probably push after his raise on the turn. I'm curious as to what buy in this is. And with no previous hands to see how this player acted and what usually happened when he min-raised a min-raise could mean anything. Most of the time it is not AA or KK, so I think I'd push. If he flips over AQ that's just the way it goes.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: I think I\'m beat?

Lead out on the turn with a push. The pot is already big enough.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: I think I\'m beat?

How do you decide that the pot is big enough?
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: I think I\'m beat?

I guess I left the buy-in out. It's an $11.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:36 AM
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I definitely push. The guy could easily have Q7 or something.

But I'm not so sure I'd agree about leading by pushing the turn.

There'd be 570 in the pot and you'd still have over 1400 in your stack. Correct me if I'm wrong. That would seem like an overbet to me to just push that especially since at this point I would be thinking I had the best hand and wanting to get some more chips. Being said I bet like 350-400 especially since there doesn't really appear to be any draws so I wouldn't be scared of anything. Then if he played back at me like he actually did I'd push.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: I think I\'m beat?

wtf does that mean? I would push too, but only cause his bet is an underbet. The pot is never "big enough" to win now when I can force my opponent to make an incorrect call with a smaller bet.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:24 AM
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Default Re: I think I\'m beat?

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There'd be 570 in the pot and you'd still have over 1400 in your stack.

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You have tons of chips left, but he only has 655 left. Any bet that is even close to pot size is essentially all in anyways.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: I think I\'m beat?

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wtf does that mean? I would push too, but only cause his bet is an underbet. The pot is never "big enough" to win now when I can force my opponent to make an incorrect call with a smaller bet.

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Dude, chill. And the pot definitely can be big enough. You've gotta make a decent size bet to protect an ace from falling. And any bet close to the size of the pot is essentially all in. I'll just push and make those aces fold.
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