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Old 08-24-2004, 05:44 AM
Atropos Atropos is offline
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Default Re: I still find it hard to believe...

"In the last month, playing .50/$1, I am down $300. Had it not been for Ed's advice, I'd probably be down $500-$600. Be thankful for the streak you are on, and get ready for the dark side."

I dont think that this can be a streak. Its impossible to lose 300$ at party 0.50/1 with good game selection and semi-ok poker skills. I play 4 tables all the time, and I have never lost more than 90BB, but seen more bad beats than ever in my poker career.
I think it's rather ideas like always capping JJ preflop in multiway pots, than an ominous "bad streak" that makes you lose...
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Old 08-24-2004, 10:08 AM
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Default Re: I still find it hard to believe...

There were 55,000 people on party last night... there are millions and millions and millions of adults who like to gamble. I see no reason to believe that we won't see 100k or 200k people online in the near future just on Party.

I just started playing in May. I deposited $80, no bonus. I played for 2 months and cashed out about $750. I left about $110 and I'm up to $900 again. I'm shocked at the stupidity of many players.

I wanted to add... that in your original post you mention that you aren't that good. I'm not that good either. The main reason a lot of low limit 2+2ers win is that they realize that they aren't that good but they do know enough to play a reasonable game. Fortunately (for us) a reasonable low limit game can be very profitable.
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Old 08-24-2004, 10:26 AM
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Default Re: I still find it hard to believe...

I really can't believe it either. I'm by no means the best but and have run up $200 into $4500 in the past 4 months. Party Poker is like a chip spewing bonanza with people cold calling 2 or 3 bets on the turn with middle pairs and the like. It all seems too good to be true.
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Old 08-24-2004, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: I still find it hard to believe...

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95% of poker players are long term losers.


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is that true? I'm definatly a long term winner at the level I've been playing, but I don't know if I would consider myself in the top 5% of all poker players.

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My PT database has a 40/60 split of winners/losers, FWIW.
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Old 08-24-2004, 11:04 AM
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Default Re: I still find it hard to believe...

exactly

casinos have been around for forever, and they have always had business

some of their customers are degenerates that lose everything, but many are just recreational players who lose a small part of their paycheck each week/month/year and don't really mind, much like the poker fish of today

there's will ALWAYS be money out there, always
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Old 08-24-2004, 11:06 AM
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Default Re: I still find it hard to believe...

"Money's out there for sure, but it's maybe a more modest sum than some of our winning sessions lead us to believe. "

i think this is an important point too, there will always be money out there for anyone with decent poker knowledge to take, but i'm talking about the 2BB/hr kind at 5/10, not the "omg i just made 100 BB in 2 hours at 15/30" types of ridiculous streaks that are selectivly remembered
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Old 08-24-2004, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: I still find it hard to believe...

yeah, you're absolutely right. just because we make the effort to get better doesn't mean everyone does. plenty of people will sit down at 5/10 just because it's a good way to gamble. they like poker, and as you say, the money stays around longer.
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Old 08-24-2004, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: I still find it hard to believe...

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Its impossible to lose 300$ at party 0.50/1 with good game selection and semi-ok poker skills. I play 4 tables all the time, and I have never lost more than 90BB, but seen more bad beats than ever in my poker career.
I think it's rather ideas like always capping JJ preflop in multiway pots, than an ominous "bad streak" that makes you lose...

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Actually, I've stopped capping with JJ preflop/multiway. Now I just re-raise with 5 2 offsuit! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 08-24-2004, 12:58 PM
JAque JAque is offline
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Default Re: I still find it hard to believe...

20 to 30 mil people visit Las Vegas every year dropping their share. It does not seem to slow down.
People lose some money then a few months later, they come back. Plus a lot of people consider gambling as entertaiment and therefore it is a cost they are willing to pay.
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Old 08-24-2004, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: I still find it hard to believe...

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My PT database has a 40/60 split of winners/losers, FWIW.

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That's about what everyone reports here, but unless you've been playing with the same players for a lot of the time, these only represent short term numbers.
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