I 3-bet AK, Hit My Pair and Fold to a River Raise

Moozh · #1 10-07-2005, 09:27 PM

Villian here was maybe a bit loose, but pretty solid overall (33/23/1.5). I give him credit for being a thinking player. Is there a better way to play it?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, MP calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP calls.

Turn: (4.20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP calls.

River: (6.20 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9.20 BB

flawless_victory · #2 10-07-2005, 09:30 PM

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Is there a better way to play it?

[/ QUOTE ]yeah...
DONT FOLD.

Moozh · #3 10-07-2005, 09:33 PM

yeah, yeah... But give me a range here.

ArturiusX · #4 10-07-2005, 09:57 PM

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yeah, yeah... But give me a range here.

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A5 worried about his kicker suddenly think he's good.

Moozh · #5 10-08-2005, 12:59 AM

Ok, I figured this would be seen as an uuto-call by 2+2, but I guess I'm still not convinced.

I beat Ax, KK, KQ, and 99-. Of all of those hands, I don't see any of them being raised on the river by a semi-reasonable player. I felt my image at the table was solid. I had shown down good hands recently.

I would very very much doubt that my opponent would raise the river expecting me to fold in this spot. I guess that's the crux of the matter though. If I'm wrong in thinking he could raise a worse hand, then obviously I was wrong to fold. Also, I am still jumping between 3/6 and 5/10, so maybe 5/10 is a bit crazier.

That said, I don't see a 32/22/1.5 player raising that river with any hand I beat. I think the only reason to call would be hoping to split with another AK.

King Yao · #6 10-08-2005, 01:24 AM

just by gut feel, I'd expect to lose a big majority of the time on the River when raised with that board. however, given that you only need to win 10% of the time to have a +EV of calling...I'd call in this spot. The three clubs and the second jack may have propelled him to a better hand (likely actually given he raised), but there seems to be a solid chance it could have propelled him to bluff and give it a try.

so bottomline is, I'd call given the 9.2 BB pot.

Moozh · #7 10-08-2005, 01:41 AM

Ok, thanks for the reply. Aside from the big pot, I guess it comes down to somewhat of a feel play, and I'll be the first to admit my feel is horrible.