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Old 12-25-2005, 11:18 PM
2easy 2easy is offline
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Default Re: Guy brags about having 3 accounts at Poker Stars

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The Party and skins were always amongst the easiest to release bonuses on the net - that's how they overtook

As of right now Party has 47,662 online and Stars has 43,618.

Party have basically abolished (or is about to) the three reasons a lot of players would pick them over Stars - good bonuses (for casuals), rakeback (for semi-pros/pros) and datamining (for PT users).

And Stars has lower rake I think as they are 'no flop, no drop' and I don't think Party are (I could be wrong on that one).

Anyone else think 3 months for Party to lose No 1 slot is unrealistic?

I just think Party is blowing it - the markets certainly think so judging by how fast their share price has headed south..

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as others have pointed out, party didnt get be #1 by bonus, but by marketing.

stars player count is grossly overstated as they get a lot of that count from microlimits, that party doesnt have.

and stars doesnt enable datamining, showing showdown hands, etc, without screenscraping aids.

and party is a no flop no drop, as are almost all sites.

im no apologist for party either, but found your arguments to be strange considering stars bonuses are worse, the dont do rakeback and their datamining stance is no different than party's.

but my offer to book any action on your predictions of stars overtaking party still stands.
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Old 12-26-2005, 12:12 AM
imported_leader imported_leader is offline
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Default Re: Guy brags about having 3 accounts at Poker Stars

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showing showdown hands,

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If you're referring to them not showing mucked cards, then you're wrong. PA HUD picks them up from the HH's.

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but found your arguments to be strange considering stars bonuses are worse,

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Stars bonuses are much more straightforward however. Party occasionally will not let you have some bonus for a seemingly random reason. Like you cashed out last week before the bonus was even announced.

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the dont do rakeback and their datamining stance is no different than party's.

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Yeah but allowing something and then taking it away certainly feels worse to players then just saying "We don't do that here" like stars does. Stars is increasing the reasons to play at their site at the same time Party is decreasing the reasons to on theirs.

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but my offer to book any action on your predictions of stars overtaking party still stands.

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It's pretty much inevitable IMO. I doubt it will be in 3 months, but continually making poor business decisions will catch up with you. Also, we only see the public [censored] ups. If they're cutting corners in service, they are probably cutting corners else where.
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