What about a 2+2 "league" for WSOP 2006 seats?

[Dave D]

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Dave D, I don't think your idea is bad at all, but my only concern would be getting enough 2+2 people to play $100 events each week. If we get 30 2+2er's and 400 other people, what's really the point?

You can find sats to the WSOP all over the place. I was just thinking a "league" or leaderboard type thing for 2+2er's only would be really cool. Almost like having our own little tour, with WSOP seats on the line at the end.

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I think a fair amount of 2+2ers wouldn't bother with the leaderboard at the end of the year because they've already qualified in other ways. Maybe I'm giving us too much credit tho [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] It's not a bad idea to just keep track of who won. Reasons to hold our own tourney, even if its largely (or even mostly) not 2+2ers and/or why our tourney is different than other tourneys out there:

1. Don't give out cash, only seats. Ie no winning twice, and keep people out who have won already. I think we'd probably write that somewhere so everyone sees it. That means *at the least* you can't win in this tournament twice . I suppose people who haven't won our tourney would play it, and still play other tourneys, but at the least we'd have mostly people who haven't won a seat yet. I don't know if it's possible to literally ban people who have already won, but at the least we could just not pay them, and pay the next person instead. I think a fair amount of people who play WSOP stuff are doing it just hoping for a cash prize. $12k is a pretty good prize, especially when you can get it for 8th place or whatever. This cuts those people out.

2. I was saying in my original post. Keep the buy in relativly low while still having a good payout. $100 is (I think?) 40% of what party and all them usually make the buy in if I remember. Determining our own payout/tourney structure is important.

3. Knowing much of the field is 2+2ers. Knowing they're mostly (?) good players. Other tourneys don't really have this.


I just think making a weekly tourney that only costs $100 to enter but is very feasable to do well in has an appeal in itself. The other tourneys cost at least twice as much, and have bigger fields.

[dmk]

i still think it should be a league type of idea w/ a tlb system

also, it should be 2+2 only. i think part of the point is to have a 2+2er to root for, etc

another idea is, if it goes the way of top 10 tlb ppl fighting for the seat, winner gets the seat and the other 9 get 1% of the wsop action? something like that? just a thought so everyone gets a little something (or at least has an invested interest in the winner!)

[Yuv]

I'd be interested as long as we keep it in the 50$ and under area. I got better things to do with my money than lose it to the sharks here [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[KKsuited]

good idea dm, on everyone at the FT getting a piece of the player.

[Jurollo]

Some quick math....

1 tourney per week, prizes split amongst say.... top 4 or so players. 50% of buy in taken each week (this is a hurdle for the site, trust me! Most sites will not want to hold money for you, in fact I don't know of any that would) If a site wouldnt you could make it a $10 buy and $10 to get the password and have an account solely for WSOP funds.

So 28 weeks...
Average 50 players per week = $500 in prizes each week, $500 into WSOP pool

$500 x 28 = $14,000 in WSOP Dollars to be split amongst top 3 or 4.

Jack the entry up to $15 and $15 and the pool rises to $21,000 (much better in my opinion)

I would be happy to host the leaderboard on my web space and start to help KK get things in motion with Pokerstars to do this. I can set up an independent playing account soley for the WSOP funds as well and give 1 other persos access to it if I am not around on a tourney day.

Run a variety of tournies and count top 15 towards final score using a modified TLB system. The one plus that sending it to a WSOP account would bring is that we would be paying less vig on a $15 MTT than a $30 in which half is withheld, so we are building the prize pool quicker.

Is this what you are thinking of KK?
~Justin

[mshalen]

Sounds like fun. I'm ready.

[dmk]

that sounds excellent. one other thing is i think you should try to have the league finished up around 2 months prior to the ME. that way you don't have 6 out of the 10 ppl having already won seats.