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Old 08-11-2005, 11:44 AM
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Default am i spewing chips

couldnt get bisons to work> even deleted texas
please critique me.
Villan is 65% vpip, 17% raise
Caller is very similar in stats
I put Him on something like Aqo

***** Hand History for Game 2516374811 *****
2/4 Texas Hold'em Game Table (Limit) - Thu Aug 11 10:56:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 24987 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to CDLarmore [ 8c, 8h ]
canman38 folds.
Yeeros82 folds.
Hohojirozame folds.
IMSnowMan folds.
Fred739l calls (2)
CDLarmore calls (2)
holypope69 folds.
Rhinosaur82 calls (1)
billy_wu raises (2) to 4
Fred739l calls (2)
CDLarmore calls (2)
Rhinosaur82 calls (2)

** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4h, 8d, Ad ]
Rhinosaur82 checks.
billy_wu bets (2)
Fred739l folds.
CDLarmore calls (2)
Rhinosaur82 calls (2)

** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5c ]
Rhinosaur82 checks.
billy_wu bets (4)
CDLarmore raises (8) to 8
Rhinosaur82 calls (8)
billy_wu raises (8) to 12
CDLarmore calls (4)
Rhinosaur82 calls (4)

** Dealing River ** : [ 5d ]
Rhinosaur82 checks.
billy_wu bets (4)
CDLarmore raises (8) to 8
Rhinosaur82 calls (8)
billy_wu raises (8) to 12
CDLarmore calls (4)
Rhinosaur82 calls (4)
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Old 08-11-2005, 11:48 AM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Default Re: am i spewing chips

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couldnt get bisons to work

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Then you need to do it by hand. When I see something like this I don't even want to wade through it to see what your issue might be. Not to mention that you've posted player names, which is a no-no.
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Old 08-11-2005, 11:57 AM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Default Re: am i spewing chips

Having said what I said above, I waded through it to figure out what's going on. My first question is, why not raise the flop? Charge the flush draws, and get as much money in as possible while you're pretty sure you've got the best hand. My second question is, why not cap the turn? You're only behind to AA, and having not raised the flop, Villan may put you on some kind of crazy straight draw. Finally, why not cap the river? You're only behind to AA/55, here, and you're going to be shown AK/AQ/AJ/etc. often enough that you should be going to war on every street, IMO.

So you lost to AA. Big deal. Don't slow down with a monster just because there's ONE (or two) bigger monsters out there.
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Old 08-11-2005, 12:04 PM
Felipe Felipe is offline
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Default Re: am i spewing chips

bet/raise/cap every street. Ifyou lose a pot when you've got a set, and you didn't lose alot of chips doing it - then you didn't play it right.
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Old 08-11-2005, 12:07 PM
tiltaholic tiltaholic is offline
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Default Re: am i spewing chips

first.
when bad players raise out of the blinds they tend to have hands, even when they are otherwise maniacs.

second. you must raise the flop because it is relatively coordinated. i could possibly see and argument for waiting for the turn on an uncoordinated board but even then i find more profit fastplaying the flop than slowplaying. the FREAKIN DIAMONDS make this an auto-raise.

i cap the turn, and probably also cap the river as well.

edit for freakin diamonds
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Old 08-11-2005, 12:14 PM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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the hearts make this an auto-raise.

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I think you mean diamonds.
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Old 08-11-2005, 12:18 PM
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deceided to take along the overcaller and rr turn for more bets, I wasnt putting anyone on a FD, my reads were solid. I didnt cap the river because i started to get scared of AA. I played it very aggrevissive, and villans totally not slowing down, so I finally decided to. I was just curious if i have mubs, or if anyone else is paying out less to this? how fast is someone putting him on rockets? how bad did i play it? yea preflop shoulda raised but this is a super small error compared to later errors?
cdl
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Old 08-11-2005, 12:25 PM
Vote4Pedro Vote4Pedro is offline
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Preflop: Raise; Freds open limp after 4 folds is pathetic, attack him.

Flop: No flush draw is gonna fold for two bets and a big Ace will play right back at you.

Turn: I'm capping here all day

River: If given the opportunity, I like capping the river for a few reasons. 1) This guy obviously raises with a lot of hands(you didn't mention how he plays postflop, so I'm assuming he's just as wild), and youre only losing to a few possible combos of cards. 2) The caller is providing you with a nice cushion for those very rare occassions when you lose to a bigger boat.
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Old 08-11-2005, 01:15 PM
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Oh, I surely lost a lot of chips here [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 08-11-2005, 01:22 PM
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Appreciate everyones reply, sounds like I should have in fact committed myself more instead of having mubs, damn monsters ive been scared since a kid...
cdl
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