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#11
12-01-2005, 06:25 PM
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Re: My biggest hand to date, should I even have been involved?
fold pf. but congrats.
PS what site is this? I've never heard of a 3-5 game online. 
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#12
12-01-2005, 06:28 PM
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Re: My biggest hand to date, should I even have been involved?
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[ QUOTE ] 5/10 only applies when you have position. [/ QUOTE ] That's news to me. I can see that with sc's. But pp's shouldn't matter. [/ QUOTE ] it's less important with PP's played for set value, but still does apply somewhat. "When contemplating calling a raise because your position is good, you have a clear call if the raise is less than 5% of your stack, and a clear fold if it is more than 10%. In between those numbers, use your judgement." btw, your relative position is good for leading out.
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#13
12-01-2005, 06:40 PM
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Re: My biggest hand to date, should I even have been involved?
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btw, your relative position is good for leading out. [/ QUOTE ] Explain that. My gut said that MP2 was probably gonna bet something with any two. And then CO would either call or push if he had anything. CO and I have played together before...if I lead into the field, he knows I'm not bluffing into 3 players, but have a legit hand. He'd fold AK there, but if MP2 donkleads, he might call or push MP2's bet. I thought the way I played it was the best line, but would like to hear what you have to say. And I still lean toward preflop being OK. It's $15 to call a guy who has a $166 stack. There's a bit of dead money in there, plus I expect one of MP's to come along, further sweetening things. Marginal, but OK. I think, maybe.
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#14
12-01-2005, 07:09 PM
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Re: My biggest hand to date, should I even have been involved?
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Explain that. [/ QUOTE ] i think your line was fine...and it worked out well. i read CO for a big hand, AK/QQ/JJ, bigger than MP2. if you lead, you may get a call from MP1, a call or raise from MP2, then a call or raise from CO. CO won't fold an overpair if you bet say 3/4 pot and the other two call. the way it played out MP1 got pushed out of the hand without putting a penny in post-flop. if MP2 raise, then CO may still push thinking that you think your 99/TT is good on this flop. shrug, i don't think it matters much and this is all speculation, but i tend to lead when i have two weak calling players between me and the person that i think has the strongest hand.
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#16
12-02-2005, 11:41 AM
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Re: My biggest hand to date, should I even have been involved?
This type of action just doesn't happen online. Must have been live. Plus, who has 1/3 besides some dumb card club?
PF call is a little rough. Glad it worked out.
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#17
12-02-2005, 11:44 AM
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Re: My biggest hand to date, should I even have been involved?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 5/10 only applies when you have position. [/ QUOTE ] That's news to me. I can see that with sc's. But pp's shouldn't matter. [/ QUOTE ] it's less important with PP's played for set value, but still does apply somewhat. "When contemplating calling a raise because your position is good, you have a clear call if the raise is less than 5% of your stack, and a clear fold if it is more than 10%. In between those numbers, use your judgement." btw, your relative position is good for leading out. [/ QUOTE ] PP played for set value have odds of 7.5-1 against. In order to make up for those times when you put additional $4 in the pot and still lose you need to expect a return of 10X your preflop bet when you win. Obviously a preflop bet of more than 10% will decrease the likihood of achieving this goal, unless you are in a multiway pot. Sc's play better multiway and when I have a pp played for set value I'm looking for a big stack that I can double through.
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#18
12-02-2005, 11:59 AM
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Re: My biggest hand to date, should I even have been involved?
I think the flop play is fine. Pre-flop, if the game is a fish fest like you described then you can easily get away from your hand and make up the $30 no sweat. The pre-flop play is very close to alive 1/2 or 2/5 donkfest where I will overpay a little to see the flop because I know my all-in is getting called by at least one person "who's gotta see it."
Your biggest mistake was not having a full buy-in [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Your post should be mandatory reading for these guys who buy in for the minimum at NL $200.
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#19
12-02-2005, 12:26 PM
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Re: My biggest hand to date, should I even have been involved?
This must be live. First of all, I've never seen a 1-3 game online, anywhere.....ever. Secondly the donkish play sounds exactly like play that is usually only seen at a card room. I dont see why aj wont respond letting you guys know where it was though. :::Shrug:::
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#20
12-02-2005, 12:55 PM
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Re: My biggest hand to date, should I even have been involved?
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This must be live. First of all, I've never seen a 1-3 game online, anywhere.....ever. Secondly the donkish play sounds exactly like play that is usually only seen at a card room. I dont see why aj wont respond letting you guys know where it was though. :::Shrug::: [/ QUOTE ] he said that it was online here
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