domesticating chimps. why not

[PoBoy321]

WTF have you been for the last month?

[whiskeytown]

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They only work with very young chimps, basically just kids, in movies and t.v.'s because they get very cranky, even vicious, past just a few years of age. Biting stars and scratching them up actually does happen. They are also very strong even at a year or so old, so by the time they get a few years on them, they can basically tear us to pieces if they get the notion. And since their hostility and territoriality rises markedly as they come into sexual maturity and age, the notion they just very well might get. It's not worth the risk.

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so in other words, they have the personality of your average OOT'er -

leave the monkey in the jungle.

RB

[kurosh]

I think I have to ask...

Who would win if 3 chimps fought a big [censored] gorilla?

[Blarg]

Gorillas literally pick up lions and break them, snapping their spines. If it were a big greyback, I think he'd scare the crap out of the chimps. I don't give the 3 chimps much of a chance.

Now, as to how many five-year olds a chimp could take ...

[mason55]

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Sure, chimps are among the smartest of animals, no arguing that. However, intelligence isn't necessarily the end-all quality desired when training and domesticating an animal.

A primate requires a TON of effort since the animal is so intelligent and advanced socially, so I just don't know if the work required would outweigh the benefit for all but the most advanced tasks.

Swede

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Dolphins are supposedly even smarter than chimps. Why is there no ethical considerations about training them and keeping them in captivity (besides the typical ALF stuff)?

Intelligence has nothing to do with this argument.


Oh yeah, [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], welcome back [censored]

[Blarg]

As a contributory note on that theme, "bush meat," which is usually chimps, gorillas and small monkeys, has been very commonly eaten in Africa for ages and still is, in great quantities, today. Not a lotta respect going there either.

[mason55]

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As a contributory note on that theme, "bush meat," which is usually chimps, gorillas and small monkeys, has been very commonly eaten in Africa for ages and still is, in great quantities, today. Not a lotta respect going there either.

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I'm pretty sure that this is a leading theory on the transmission of SIV to humans as well.

Edit: After a quick check, I'm only half correct. SIV is related to HIV-2 which is only found in West Africa. This is still thought to have been caused by "bush meat." HIV-1, which cannot be transmitted to chimps and is the pandemic strain, is not directly related to SIV.

[Martin]

It's commonly believed in Africa that "bush meat" contributed to the spreading of Ebola.

A friend of mine worked on a pilot project training chimps to assist the disabled. It got scrapped mid way because of the animal's agression. Only very young ones were suitable. Once they became adults they were way too agressive.

[daryn]

i got your bush meat right here

[Evan]

You should focus on reindeer instead.