First 15 mins off 6. max. 25$ NL, need help, too aggr.??

spliff · #1 12-01-2005, 12:27 AM

Hi,

i am usually playing 50NL-100NL Full game, now i wanna learn 6. max.

Now about protecting blinds with lesser hands, and not to much more aggr. preflop unless stealing blinds (first in).

I am cencerned about post-flop play, since i realized how much more fast paced the 6. max. is compared to full games.

This is the 2 (only) hands i won (exc. blinds), did'nt loose any big ones.

This games rocks, i was shaking in my pants, even though it was only 25NL!!

And i actually paid attenion too the other players, which i never seem to be able to, playing full games.

Any comments on how i played these 2 "crusial" hands in my first 15 mins of 6. max.

No. 1
Protecting BB, with a midiocre hand.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button ($42.10)
SB ($19.05)
Hero ($24.15)
UTG ($8.54)
MP ($19.53)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, Button raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75, UTG calls $0.75, MP calls $0.75.

Flop: ($4.10) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets $3, UTG folds, MP folds, Button raises to $6, Hero calls $3.

Turn: ($16.10) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Button folds.

Final Pot: $16.10

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Hero wins $16.10. 

No. 2
Trying to steal blinds with semi god hand, even though UTG.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB ($36.80)
BB ($25.19)
Hero ($32.60)
MP ($24.75)
CO ($35.47)
Button ($19.68)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
Hero raises to $1, MP calls $1, 4 folds.

Flop: ($2.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $3, MP folds.

Final Pot: $5.35

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Hero wins $5.35. 

Thanks

wdeadwyler · #2 12-01-2005, 12:47 AM

Hand 1: What happened on the turn, calling his minraise is usually a bad idea.

Hand 2: Nothing wrong with raising k10s utg.

kongo_totte · #3 12-01-2005, 12:52 AM

Hand 1

Don't play J 8o OOP to a raise. Don't call the flop raise.

Hand 2

It's a pretty aggro PF-raise, and I would certainly muck that PF more often than not, but raising it once in a while in EP is fine I guess. Flop bet is standard.

elus2 · #4 12-01-2005, 12:52 AM

don't call preflop with J8o since it's a bad hand and you're out of position.

spliff · #5 12-01-2005, 01:51 AM

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Hand 1: What happened on the turn, calling his minraise is usually a bad idea.

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On the turn I made a all-in (pot-size) bet for about 15$, he folded. I was unsure if that was right.

See your point about not calling the miniraise on the flop. Felt a fold would be wrong, and i did'nt feel like an all-in re-raise. I made a all-in bet when the turn came out with only a small overcard "10".

Guess i should have made that all-in re-raise (or folded) on the flop after all, since i had no interest in seing the turn.

spliff · #6 12-01-2005, 01:57 AM

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Hand 1

Don't play J 8o OOP to a raise. Don't call the flop raise.

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don't call preflop with J8o since it's a bad hand and you're out of position.

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Before my debut in 6. max. i read a short article about having to protect your BB's with midiocre hands like Q8o, and 3-betting frequent raisers with similar midiocre hands hands like A7 in BB's in shorthanded games, as being massively important.

Hoopster81 · #7 12-01-2005, 02:00 AM

hmmm... in no limit?

#8 12-01-2005, 02:02 AM

1
I would definetly fold this preflop OOP to a 4xBB raise.

2
I would usually fold this UTG but a raise is ok, postflop is good, nh.

spliff · #9 12-01-2005, 02:06 AM

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hmmm... in no limit?

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I would definetly fold this preflop OOP to a 4xBB raise.

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My fault, big mistake - the article was about high stakes FL, 6. max. - gotta be pretty different from low stakes NL 6. max. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Even though the principle makes sence - to protect BB a lot more in 6. max. Any pointers too what hands to protect with; call and re-raise.

stu-unger · #10 12-01-2005, 02:11 AM

i think until u get the hang of 6max just think of it like UTG, UTG+1, & UTG+2 folded. my standards are almost the same for 6max as full ring. i steal a little bit more, but its not that different...