HU without a read

gaming_mouse · #1 09-11-2005, 12:32 AM

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
8 folds, SB raises, Hero calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (7 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 8 BB

gaming_mouse · #2 09-11-2005, 11:50 AM

is this just totally standard?

dave44 · #3 09-11-2005, 12:44 PM

This seems OK to me. The river call looks very close and I may or may not make it while at the table.

TTChamp · #4 09-11-2005, 01:24 PM

Depending on the player, raising the turn with the plan to check the river and fold to any other bet is a good plan. There are very few hands that would bet at you again after a turn raise on this board. If he does 3 bet you or donk you on the river, you can fold pretty comfortably. At any rate, a turn raise is superior to calling down.

I assume you had a read on this guy that made you believe him. With a read and the river ace, I think the fold is ok.

spydog · #5 09-11-2005, 02:14 PM

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is this just totally standard?

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Until your river fold. I think you are ahead enough here to make the call. Plus, I think it's pretty important to see how villian plays HU and by folding you would be allowing him to keep his secrets.

emil3000 · #6 09-11-2005, 02:17 PM

Hmm, I don't know that the ace changed things enough for me not calling down... You know he's probly betting every river card...

gaming_mouse · #7 09-11-2005, 03:47 PM

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Hmm, I don't know that the ace changed things enough for me not calling down... You know he's probly betting every river card...

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Put him on a hand. You think an unknown is pure bluffing a flop 3 bet, followed by a turn and river bet often enough to make a call correct? What is his range? I just don't see it, but I posted because I'm not 100% sure either.

sfer · #8 09-11-2005, 04:18 PM

Raise the turn. You'd be surprised how often you have him reverse dominated.

gaming_mouse · #9 09-11-2005, 04:46 PM

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Raise the turn. You'd be surprised how often you have him reverse dominated.

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do you fold to a 3bet? how about to a river s n' go?