How do you make money in SSNL?

[tripp0807]

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Clearly, an accurate answer is my opponents making mistakes. What is a more specific answer?

My opponents general inability to lay down one pair hands?
My opponents loose preflop play?
My superior postflop play?
My opponents weak hand reading?
My ability to bluff?
ETC.

More than one may apply! Thank you.

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All the usual stuff is true: bluff (on flop, maybe on turn), get into pots against the weak opponents, put opponents on ranges, and try to ascertain if there is logic from their preflopping betting with their betting on the board.

But imho, the main way you make is money by picking up small pots here and there, making laydowns, and then . . . getting all your chips in on a monster hand. I get a monster hand (nut flush, boat, etc) let's say once an hour in a multiway pot - that is when you want to get paid off big.

So . . . an hour of my playing might look like this:

picked up small pot
folded on flop
folded on turn
bluffed and picked up a small pot
folded on flop
bluffed the river and picked up small pot
stole some blinds
so far, up 2 BBs
then . . . won a massive pot with monster for 50 BBs

rinse, repeat for the next hour

[4_2_it]

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So . . . an hour of my playing might look like this:

picked up small pot
folded on flop
folded on turn
bluffed and picked up a small pot
folded on flop
bluffed the river and picked up small pot
stole some blinds
so far, up 2 BBs
then . . . won a massive pot with monster for 50 BBs

rinse, repeat for the next hour

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Where do I sign up for the never lose a hand program?

I have the most recent version of pattern mapper, but that usually only guarantees a 80% win rate [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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So . . . an hour of my playing might look like this:

picked up small pot
folded on flop
folded on turn
bluffed and picked up a small pot
folded on flop
bluffed the river and picked up small pot
stole some blinds
so far, up 2 BBs
then . . . won a massive pot with monster for 50 BBs

rinse, repeat for the next hour

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Where do I sign up for the never lose a hand program?

I have the most recent version of pattern mapper, but that usually only guarantees a 80% win rate [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Oops, forgot to add the 2nd hour:

Raise 5xBB in CO with AA, flop is A58; I raise the flop, 5 callers, turn is 2, I raise the turn, 5 callers, river is 4, I push flop, 5 callers, Button with J3 wins with straight

Next hand with KK UTG, I raise 3xBB, SB reraises me, I push, he shows Q3 and wins with a Q on flop, 3 on river

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I knew it! There's always some catch with these things. I need to learn to read the fine print........

[EMcWilliams]

I think about this a lot, but more towards the home games I play that are SSNL. What is it that separates me from John Q. FIsh? In a game that is largely card dependent (debatable), where is my edge? Ive narrowed it down to my superior hand selection and superior ability to read and analyze the board versus said fish. We, here at 2p2, know when to pick and chose our fights, what to go to war with and what to say goodbye to. We know what situations are profitable versus which ones are negative EV. We avoid common traps such as min betting and slowplaying, and have the ability to lay it down when we are beat. In general, a winning SSNL'er v. John Q. Fish has a better knowledge of the game, and uses his small advantages to exploit large holes in the games of others.

How do i make money, Position, u guys check i bet the pot no matter what. Sometimes the little mousey will check raise me thats fine i will fold and let it go. The other 20 times i take the pot covers that and then some....

[elus2]

in rasied pots, making them bet/call on the turn/river with worse hands.

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At these levels most of the time it's all about position and having better cards than your opponents. Many times folding in the right spot saves you more money then pushing with the nuts wins for you.

Value betting is key.

Avoid FPS

Don't fall in love with overpairs and TPTK. They are worth showing down, but usually not worth throwing your stack in the middle.

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ABC poker and paying attention seems to do the trick at these levels for me. I get in trouble when I get too fancy.

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Oh yeah, and good table selection. I have been more diligent about proper table selection and have seen a big difference right away.