Party 25NL. AK tptk, bets pot gets two callers.

TheSeeker03 · #1 10-11-2005, 01:27 PM

Party 25NL

So here it is down and dirty. My hand is visible and two people calleda pot-sized bet. And they have position on me. What to do?

I know it's a drawing board but there are many hands that beat me. Sets, 2pairs. And they both call pot sized bet from pre-flop raiser on A flop.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 ($24.30)
MP1 :#A500AF(Villan)/ ($28.75)
MP2 ($18)
MP3 ($4.75)
CO ($28.30)
Button ($33.10)
SB ($42.75)
Hero ($23.40)
UTG ($15.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP1 :#A500AF(Villan)/ calls $0.25, 2 folds, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB (poster) completes, Hero raises to $0.5, UTG calls $0.50, MP1 :#A500AF(Villan)/ calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, SB folds.

Flop: ($3.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets $3, UTG folds, Villan calls $3, CO calls $3.

Turn: ($12.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero ??

snapfc01 · #2 10-11-2005, 01:29 PM

when you know you'll be out of position after the flop why aren't you raising more preflop?

Huhmare · #3 10-11-2005, 03:19 PM

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when you know you'll be out of position after the flop why aren't you raising more preflop?

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Because he wants more than one caller to play against with a drawing hand. If he misses A or K against one player, he is facing some hard decisions OOP. That is going to happen 2/3 of the time.

TheSeeker03 · #4 10-11-2005, 03:23 PM

Somebody understands!

mudbuddha · #5 10-11-2005, 05:54 PM

eww..
do you honestly play with that thought proccess?

u might as well check ur AA bc they might get a flush/straight tooo

mudbuddha · #6 10-11-2005, 01:31 PM

AK in BB.. i like to raise 5-6x the big blind.. and end the hand right there, winning a pot with ace high is always a good result.. but apparently at this table you need to raise more than that to have the same effect.

if you had raised more preflop, then you would "probably" have fewer opponents to worry about. then you could play aggressively into a bigger pot and hopefuly win more money and with a higher chance of winning.

ajmargarine · #7 10-11-2005, 01:34 PM

You just minraised out of the BB. OY! Don't ever do this again. Ever. That's the only lesson you need for this hand. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

sourbeaver · #8 10-11-2005, 01:37 PM

Big mistake PF, raise more to thin the field. 1.25-1.50 should do the trick.

The board is draw-heavy so I usually lead out the turn for 8-9 (most often I get 2 folds). If you get called, it's most likely a split between some chaser who can't let go, a lesser ace or a better hand than yours (78, set). No matter what, once you bet the turn, you're pretty much committed.

You could bet less (6$) and fold to a raise, but be aware that you now offer attractive odds to probable drawers.

mudbuddha · #9 10-11-2005, 01:41 PM

although u gotta remember, you DO want people who are on the draw to call your bet.. but wrong odds to do so.

sourbeaver · #10 10-11-2005, 01:46 PM

Yes I want them to call 9 on the turn. 6 is border-correct odds if you consider implied odds. But you have to remember that you might also want to balance out giving wrong odds and not committing yourself w TPTK vs 2 players. Reads are helpful in a spot like this.