To value bet or not to value bet

KeysrSoze · #1 06-21-2005, 12:36 AM

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP2 raises, MP3 calls, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP2 bets, MP3 calls, Hero raises, MP2 3-bets, MP3 calls, Hero caps, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (11.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP2 bets, MP3 calls, Hero raises, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (17.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero...

Scary stuff.

ClaytonN · #2 06-21-2005, 12:37 AM

Very easy river bet/fold

milesdyson · #3 06-21-2005, 12:42 AM

do you have any reads?

the one thing you have going for you is that you raised the turn when the third diamond fell (and even though MP2 has the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and should realize you can't possibly have a flush), he will have a hard time raising the river with the straight.

so bet. if raised, kill yourself so you don't have to decide whether to fold or call.

KeysrSoze · #4 06-21-2005, 12:59 AM

Glad you mentioned that. First revolution for me sitting in, so no reads. Thats precisely my line of thought I had on the turn, "well, I'll raise for information! (TM), If I'm called I'm probably in good shape but if reraised I might have big problems." Then the river falls and I'm all "well I'm dead to the guy check/raising my aggression with AK". I chicken out and check, and get shown a set of tens and aces up. Thats a part of my game I have to work on, betting/folding to a raise. It just burns my crotch having to doing that.

benkath1 · #5 06-21-2005, 01:00 AM

Hero bets and calls a raise. I would expect to see him open raising with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].