Who makes this laydown?

Saddlepoint · #1 05-07-2005, 03:19 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

MP2 ($53.45)
MP3 ($45.5)
CO ($43.33)
Button ($39.9)
SB ($55.3)
BB ($51.15)
UTG ($64.3)
UTG+1 ($34.75)
Hero ($49.25)
MP1 ($49.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.5. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, MP2 calls $3, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $2.50.

Flop: ($10.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 bets $1, Hero raises to $9, MP2 raises to $17, UTG+1 calls $16, Hero...?

No stats on either guy, but even if I had them...

To generalize the question: should I be laying down overpairs (and AK when it hits for that matter), to raises like this? I had to call $8 more, $53.25 was in the pot already. Flush draw changes things a lot, I think.

Who says fold, who says call, who says jam?

swolfe · #2 05-07-2005, 04:04 PM

man, these people play so dumb.

UTG+1 is pot committed and smooth-calls MP2's raise. i think he has a flush draw. MP2 could have a set, but...i don't know...he made a min-raise, which could also be JT.

This is probably a fold since people at this level play their cards more often than not. I'd probably push though and make running K's for quads...cause I'm good at that.

DiabloVt7 · #3 05-07-2005, 04:06 PM

I fold it. Too many times you will be looking at a set of 10s. That's the best hand that I could be putting him on, especially considering the avg stack of only $50. and the first person to enter the pot seems to me like he is on a flush draw as well.

Siawyn · #4 05-07-2005, 04:17 PM

Given the action, I think folding is probably the best option... especially since you dont have the K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] so you may only be drawing to 1 out if you're up against the dreaded set/flush draw combo.

TheCroShow · #5 05-08-2005, 05:29 AM

i'm all in

creedofhubris · #6 05-08-2005, 07:06 AM

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

MP2 ($53.45)
MP3 ($45.5)
CO ($43.33)
Button ($39.9)
SB ($55.3)
BB ($51.15)
UTG ($64.3)
UTG+1 ($34.75)
Hero ($49.25)
MP1 ($49.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.5. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, MP2 calls $3, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $2.50.

Flop: ($10.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 bets $1, Hero raises to $9, MP2 raises to $17, UTG+1 calls $16, Hero...?

No stats on either guy, but even if I had them...

To generalize the question: should I be laying down overpairs (and AK when it hits for that matter), to raises like this? I had to call $8 more, $53.25 was in the pot already. Flush draw changes things a lot, I think.

Who says fold, who says call, who says jam?

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Meh, I can't fold here. Without the cold-caller, push here. With the cold-caller, call flop raise, get all-in on a non-club turn, get out if the turn is a club.