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SB QTo calling an all-in (PP $10+$1)
Would like some advice on this please.
1. I called before the flop due to the odds despite QTo not being great. 2. I then bet after the flop because I had a pair of tens. I'm thinking that maybe with the amount of people in the hand and the fact that MP3 could have gone all in, that I should have just checked? Would that have been better? 3. If I had checked and he had gone all in, would anyone have called this anyway? Thanks. Hand below: ($10 + $1) 50/100 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) Table Table 67104 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button Total number of players : 9 Seat 1: MP1 (1365) Seat 2: MP2 (403) Seat 3: MP3 (457) Seat 4: CO (270) Seat 5: Hero (1110) Seat 6: BB (915) Seat 7: UTG (970) Seat 8: UTG+1 (1775) Seat 9: UTG+2 (735) Hero posts small blind (25) BB posts big blind (50) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to Hero [ Qs, Th ] UTG calls (50) UTG+1 calls (50) UTG+2 folds. MP1 folds. MP2 folds. MP3 calls (50) CO folds. Hero calls (25) BB checks. ** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ts, 6s, Kd ] Hero bets (100) BB folds. UTG folds. UTG+1 folds. MP3 raises (407) to 407 MP3 is all-In. Hero calls (307) ** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4d ] ** Dealing River ** : [ Js ] Creating Main Pot with $1064 with MP3 Summary below in white: <font color="white"> ** Summary ** Main Pot: 1064 | Board: [ Ts 6s Kd 4d Js ] MP1 balance 1365, didn't bet (folded) MP2 balance 403, didn't bet (folded) MP3 balance 1064, bet 457, collected 1064, net +607 [ Jh Ks ] [ two pairs, kings and jacks -- Ks,Kd,Jh,Js,Ts ] CO balance 270, didn't bet (folded) Hero balance 653, lost 457 [ Qs Th ] [ a pair of tens -- Kd,Qs,Js,Th,Ts ] BB balance 865, lost 50 (folded) UTG balance 920, lost 50 (folded) UTG+1 balance 1725, lost 50 (folded) UTG+2 balance 735, didn't bet (folded) </font> |
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Re: SB QTo calling an all-in (PP $10+$1)
Why bet out with 2nd pair on a K high flop? Really?
I would probably even fold preflop, but if I had got to this position, check/fold, christ man there's how many people in the pot? You think one won't have a King? How likely is that really when people at the $10s love their face cards and aces? |
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Re: SB QTo calling an all-in (PP $10+$1)
1. I called before the flop due to the odds despite QTo not being great.
<font color="blue"> Nothing wrong here. I will add my postflop strategy: I would intend to move forward with this hand if I hit the flop hard, otherwise, I'm check-folding. </font> 2. I then bet after the flop because I had a pair of tens. I'm thinking that maybe with the amount of people in the hand and the fact that MP3 could have gone all in, that I should have just checked? Would that have been better? <font color="blue"> Repeat after me. "I am a fish." Good now that's over. Nothing wrong with admitting it. Everyone starts somewhere. Let's review. "I am here on 2+2 because I want to become a better than average poker player. In order to do that, I know that playing middle pair is a fishy strategy. I will never do that again. Next time I will check, and maybe, it will check-through, and on the turn, I may improve, or maybe I can see the river for free if I check again on the turn. But in the end, my hand is very very weak on this flop." </font> 3. If I had checked and he had gone all in, would anyone have called this anyway? <font color="blue"> See my answer above. </font> |
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Re: SB QTo calling an all-in (PP $10+$1)
Ok, understood !
Out of interest, if there had only been 2 players after the flop, would you have bet this or do you still work rigidly to the never bet middle pair rule ? |
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Re: SB QTo calling an all-in (PP $10+$1)
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Ok, understood ! Out of interest, if there had only been 2 players after the flop, would you have bet this or do you still work rigidly to the never bet middle pair rule ? [/ QUOTE ] What do you gain by betting out, that you couldn't gain by checking? |
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Re: SB QTo calling an all-in (PP $10+$1)
In a 2 player hand, the chance to take the pot down right there? If you check then they'll bet and you won't know whether it's because they have a hand or are just betting to try to wni the pot.
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Re: SB QTo calling an all-in (PP $10+$1)
You do not have to win every pot to win a tournament, you know.
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Re: SB QTo calling an all-in (PP $10+$1)
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In a 2 player hand, the chance to take the pot down right there? If you check then they'll bet and you won't know whether it's because they have a hand or are just betting to try to wni the pot. [/ QUOTE ] What's your objective? |
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Re: SB QTo calling an all-in (PP $10+$1)
Well, to get ITM or win is what it should be. I was probably too focused on winning that pot. Looking back at it, I would have still had 1100 chips if I'd check-folded.
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Re: SB QTo calling an all-in (PP $10+$1)
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Well, to get ITM or win is what it should be. I was probably too focused on winning that pot. Looking back at it, I would have still had 1100 chips if I'd check-folded. [/ QUOTE ] Now you are thinking straight young grasshopper. |
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