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Old 07-19-2005, 07:00 PM
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Default Chasing a 4 high flush

Villain is the same as the other hand, seems bad/passive but capable of unpredictability

Turn call a good idea? Raise the flop or do something else fancy?

Online 10/20 Hold 'Em (6 max, 3 handed)

Hero is Button with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls

Flop (4 SB) Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB bets, Hero calls

Turn (3 BB) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
BB bets, Hero calls
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Old 07-19-2005, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: Chasing a 4 high flush

Fold the turn.
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Old 07-19-2005, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: Chasing a 4 high flush

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Fold the turn.

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I agree assuming he has a pair, there ~20% chance he has a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] > 4. So your flush outs = about 7 add 2 more outs assuming your other Aces are clean and you are up to 9 outs. Even with implied odds, the call is not justified.
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Old 07-19-2005, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: Chasing a 4 high flush

What if he could be making these bets with air, and he appears to give up bluffs on the river? Guess I'd have to know a percentage then...
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Old 07-19-2005, 07:14 PM
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I'm getting 4:1, if I have 9 outs, it would be a call...
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Old 07-19-2005, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: Chasing a 4 high flush

Right, there is a chance you have the best hand right now.
But if he is betting with a lone [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], he has 15 outs to beat you.
Given this and the fact that the 9 outs is probably pretty generous, I would still fold.
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Old 07-19-2005, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: Chasing a 4 high flush

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I'm getting 4:1, if I have 9 outs, it would be a call...

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You are right, I thought you were getting 3:1 immediate pot odds (duh!). I think the 9 outs is pretty generous, but combined with the chance you have the best hand it my swing it to a call - or maybe a raise free showdown play?
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Old 07-19-2005, 07:22 PM
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Raise the flop or do something else fancy?

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I'm open to suggestion [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

He seemed quite bad, I just felt like I should try outplaying him somehow... but it's clearly pretty marginal as well
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