So, you're telling me you beat TPTK.......

[PokerBob]

I've got no read on this dude.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (10.66 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, Hero ?????????

[Fnord]

He could be jamming a draw. I'd rather just call the flop 3-bet and re-evaluate on the turn. No way I fold.

[mr pink]

either you're drawing dead or to 3 outs and probably gonna have to dodge a club on the river, so possibly 2.

i think you can let this go on the turn.

[Fnord]

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i think you can let this go on the turn.

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Is Ed Miller going to have to chime in here and kick your ass? I think this qualifies as TPTK in a big pot.

[Pil Sung Do]

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He could be jamming a draw. I'd rather just call the flop 3-bet and re-evaluate on the turn. No way I fold.

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Do party players often bet out with just a draw on the turn after it's been capped on the flop?

I think without reads I call the three bet and fold to a turn bet if I don't improve. But everyone calls me weak/tight [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[private joker]

I don't like the flop cap. I would call it and raise a safe turn planning to fold to a 3-bet. That charges him for a draw, but more likely he has JT and is protecting his hand against draws -- and betting for value against guys with TPTK that just don't want to let their hand go.

It's MP3 that's on a draw. Looks like Hero's beaten.

[mr pink]

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Is Ed Miller going to have to chime in here and kick your ass? I think this qualifies as TPTK in a big pot.

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i wish ed would stop by, but not for that reason exactly [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. you really think hero is winning this showdown unimproved over 15% of the time?

[PokerBob]

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I think without reads I call the three bet and fold to a turn bet if I don't improve. But everyone calls me weak/tight [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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That's cuz that is what your line is, IMO. But I tend to suck.

[Fnord]

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i wish ed would stop by, but not for that reason exactly [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. you really think hero is winning this showdown unimproved over 15% of the time?

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Without a read, YES!

Also consider that you can often find a river fold if a crub hits.

[Jaden]

I put him on either trips, or two pair. He could be semi-bluffing his draw(s), but without a read on him its hard to tell.
I would either fold the turn, or call it down all the way. Given that you have no reads on this guy, I would probably call it down in this situation, since the information you gain from the player(s) in this hand might be useful in the rest of the game.