Early in a low limit MTT - Page 2

Pil Sung Do · #11 11-30-2005, 11:38 PM

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I really hate that idea. Seems like a push is the classic win a little/lose a lot move.

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you'd be surprised what people will call with

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i hate counting on being called by complete donks. i usually assume that my opponents are halfway decent until proven otherwise and any decent player who calls here likely has you beat.

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I agree. It is possible, maybe even likely considering the stakes, that I'll get called by someone with junk. But realize, there are 4 of them and any one could easily wake up with a hand.

HatesLosing · #12 11-30-2005, 11:39 PM

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leads for 300.

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I think that is well within the range of moves to make now that you are in this spot. It would have been nicer if the pot was a bit smaller, especially given your position though (maybe something to think about).

Not getting involved at all or betting anything less than 1/2 the pot is just too weak, but the person making that comment about not getting involved is at least correct that you don't want to get *overinvolved* in this pot at this point of the tournament (which is why I don't like the pot bet either and would prefer to not be in this situation right now with a pot this big in the first place).

Pil Sung Do · #13 11-30-2005, 11:43 PM

Here was my thought. I think I have the best hand, but I'm not sure. And with so many people behind me I wanted to check and see what developed.
My plan is to c/r or call and pop the turn.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1140)
MP3 (t1150)
CO (t1450)
Button (t1540)
SB (t1740)
BB (t1460)
Hero (t1780)
UTG+1 (t1720)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t80, 2 folds, MP2 calls t80, MP3 calls t80, CO calls t80, Button calls t80, 2 folds.

Flop: (t430) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets t1070 (All-In), CO calls t1070, Button raises to t1460, Hero???

Pil Sung Do · #14 11-30-2005, 11:43 PM

Do I have a tell?

HatesLosing · #15 11-30-2005, 11:45 PM

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Flop: (t430) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets t1070 (All-In), CO calls t1070, Button raises to t1460, Hero???

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Do you have to ask at this point? lol.. even if you have the best hand, you're folding now.

Pil Sung Do · #16 11-30-2005, 11:48 PM

Without a doubt. I mainly posted to see if anyone felt the check was too weak, considering I was OOP. I wasn't afraid to play aggressively if it became HU, though.

My preflop bet I expected to take the blinds or get 1-2 callers. When it became 5 handed, I got weak/tight.

ononimo · #17 12-01-2005, 12:07 AM

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Hero???

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Hero thanks his lucky stars that he checked and avoided this clusterfuck-waiting-to-happen.

like someone else said, even if you're ahead now (a very big if), TPTK with no clubs is not the hand i want to go broke with here.

ononimo · #18 12-01-2005, 12:11 AM

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When it became 5 handed, I got weak/tight.

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checking the flop is NOT weak-tight given the board, your position, and the # of opponents, especially if you're planning to check-raise or check-call and then lead-bet a non-club/non-broadway turn card.

being tight-aggressive certainly doesn't obligate you to senselessly charge into a potentially dangerous situation with a very vulnerable hand.

Pil Sung Do · #19 12-01-2005, 10:33 PM

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Hero???

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Hero thanks his lucky stars that he checked and avoided this clusterfuck-waiting-to-happen.

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Which is exactly what I did [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Pil Sung Do · #20 12-01-2005, 10:36 PM

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When it became 5 handed, I got weak/tight.

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checking the flop is NOT weak-tight given the board, your position, and the # of opponents, especially if you're planning to check-raise or check-call and then lead-bet a non-club/non-broadway turn card.

being tight-aggressive certainly doesn't obligate you to senselessly charge into a potentially dangerous situation with a very vulnerable hand.

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I can't remember what one player had (I think it was Ax), but the other two players had Ac Qc and 9 9.

Turn came a club, river paired the board. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]