10-20 NL hand PP

[grass]

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c/r flop.

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I hope you meant turn.

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no i meant flop. check calling w/ a-j against strong prefloper is stupid.

[cwl]

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no i meant flop. check calling w/ a-j against strong prefloper is stupid.

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how is check raising better?

[sgk31]

Check-raising lets you know for sure if you have the best hand or not. If you are called or reraised, you are done with the hand.

[cwl]

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Check-raising lets you know for sure if you have the best hand or not. If you are called or reraised, you are done with the hand.

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it also costs you more money and shuts out virtually all the hands you want to play against that are drawing at very few outs. i think the relevant question to be asking is how likely the opponent is to bet a worse hand on the turn after you call the flop. if he is likely to fire again with a worse hand then there is money to be made calling the turn. if he is not then you can get away from the hand more cheaply by folding to a turn bet. raising is just a way of avoiding a tricky decision.

[sgk31]

Raising the flop is reasonable, but also does not solve all the problems. What do you do if you get called? Do you bet the turn, or call his bet, or fold?

[cwl]

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Raising the flop is reasonable, but also does not solve all the problems. What do you do if you get called? Do you bet the turn, or call his bet, or fold?

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huh? are you responding to someone else? i said i dont like raising the flop.

[sgk31]

You said raising is a way of avoiding a tricky decision, I was saying that it does not entirely avoid it.

[Prevaricator]

I think check raising is worse than folding on the flop.

[tiger_style]

best options in this hand:

fold preflop
fold flop OR lead and fold to a raise
raise turn
all in river

basic as 1+1=2

[Prevaricator]

I don't like any of the preflop play in this hand.