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Old 12-27-2005, 01:40 PM
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Well, it turns out that Bush Co. refused to go to the judges for spying warrants because of who they were spying on.

Governor Bill Richardson, Senator Joe Biden, former President Jimmy Carter and Assistant Secretary of State William Burns all had their phones tapped for political reasons.

I am glad that we can now see the "national security-911-evil terraist" line of defense for what it is: an excuse to trash the constitutional rights that our fore-fathers fought and died for.

We had the capability to stop 9-11, we were tracking the hijackers. Our bloated intelligence system screwed up and a lot of people died. The 'patriot' act did not fix it.

Of course the kool-aid drinking moonbats of the authoritarian wing of the right will try to make excuses. They will attempt to muddy the waters and attack the sources.

"Well, its not like they are spying on your mom"

No, they are spying on the officials that she elected to represent her interests.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:57 PM
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Link?
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:02 PM
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http://www.onlinejournal.org/Special...505madsen.html
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:19 PM
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Your source is this guy. Any other sources?
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:26 PM
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How about Gov. Bill Richardson himself? He seems to be taking it seriously.

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Old 12-27-2005, 02:38 PM
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From your link...

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An online journalist then speculated that Richardson's conversations with former Secretary of State Colin Powell and another U.S. official about North Korea might have been among Bolton's requests.



"The governor is upset that his conversations with Secretary Powell would be intercepted since most of them were domestic calls," said Richardson spokesman Billy Sparks. "The governor felt his calls about North Korea were confidential."

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It looks like Richardson is getting his info from the OP's source.
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Old 12-27-2005, 05:05 PM
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Of course the kool-aid drinking moonbats of the authoritarian wing of the right will try to make excuses.

And of course the kool-aid drinking moonbats of the authoritarian wing of the left will try to convince us that they should be given this position of power instead of the kool-aid drinking moonbats of the authoritarian wing of the right.

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Old 12-27-2005, 09:41 PM
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The source does not seem to be a credible one. Yet I'd like to hear what Richardson, Biden, and Bolton now have to say about this in light of the FISA flap. The reasons the administration have given for circumventing the FISA court don't hold water. It is not an outrageous surmise that they felt that some of the taps they wanted would not have been approved.
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