Evidence that God exists

Taraz · #1 11-15-2005, 08:58 AM

I know a lot of Christians on this forum believe that there is direct evidence of a God. I would like to hear some of this evidence. And none of the following is evidence:

1. Lots of people believe in God (lots of people believed the world was flat)

2. Miracles by a prophet (you can't claim a miracle as evidence of God if you didn't witness the miracle)

3. The existence of the universe (just because matter exists doesn't mean that God exists)

stigmata · #2 11-15-2005, 09:19 AM

stigmata · #3 11-15-2005, 09:25 AM

Obviously that is my idea of a bad joke, like my stupid screen name that I now have to change.

Isn't religion all about belief rather than evidence?

chezlaw · #4 11-15-2005, 01:47 PM

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Thats what I believe but DS thinks I'm nuts so there's evidence that some people think religon is about evidence.

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Taraz · #5 11-15-2005, 06:23 PM

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I thought so too, but I've read a lot of posts on this forum saying things to the contrary.

Scotch78 · #6 11-16-2005, 03:34 PM

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One's personal beliefs can certainly be a matter of faith if one so chooses, but any attempt to convince another person of one's own beliefs can be subjected to logic.

Scott

NotReady · #7 11-15-2005, 01:24 PM

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Who?

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Yes, it does.

Taraz · #8 11-15-2005, 06:22 PM

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Who?

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Yes, it does.

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Who believed the world was flat? Most of Europe before Columbus and all those folk. Lots of people believe in Santa Claus and that Tupac is still alive, etc. That doesn't make it true.

And how does the existence of matter prove there is a God exactly? There is a universe -> There is a God? I don't think follows necessarily. And it's especially not true that the existence of matter proves there is a Christian God.

NotReady · #9 11-15-2005, 08:16 PM

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Most of Europe before Columbus and all those folk.

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Your source?

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I don't think follows necessarily

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I don't claim it's necessary according to human reason.

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And it's especially not true that the existence of matter proves there is a Christian God

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It's strong evidence. Whether it amounts to proof that an individual will accept depends on the individual's standard of proof.

Taraz · #10 11-15-2005, 10:05 PM

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Most of Europe before Columbus and all those folk.

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Your source?

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It was just an example. Perhaps nobody believed the world was flat and they lied to me all through school. All I was saying was that lots of people believing something is true doesn't mean that it is true. Lots of people believe in Islam, but you don't believe that Islam is a true religion from God do you?

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It's strong evidence. Whether it amounts to proof that an individual will accept depends on the individual's standard of proof.

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Could you explain this? Why does the existence of matter provide evidence of a Christian God as opposed to some other deity?