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Old 10-19-2005, 03:52 PM
ggbman ggbman is offline
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Default JJ

Villian is Todafelt, a very solid 30/60 reg.


Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP calls, SB calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

So?
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: JJ

it seems right since the only hand you beat that plays this way is AhKh. What is villians post flop agg?
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: JJ

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it seems right since the only hand you beat that plays this way is AhKh. What is villians post flop agg?

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hes a 2p2er, he's def capable of making this move with TT-77.
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: JJ

i think i fold on this board with an overpair vs a 2p2er almost never. you are good too often and the pot is large.
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:34 PM
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Default Re: JJ

Generally i think people dont make these folds often enough, but that doesnt mean it was right here. You think he is raising TT for a free showdown here Barron?
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: JJ

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(5 handed)

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he might think he has the best hand. you obviously didnt hit that 554 flop and you both know that. honestly if you had 99 here i think it would be ok but JJ is way too strong.

oh, i dont think he's checking the river with TT here either.


PS i think up to and including his flop raise, his hand range is AK, 88-AA, and possible a slew of other semi-bluffing hands.
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: JJ

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hes a 2p2er, he's def capable of making this move with TT-77.

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If he is, then he is pretty clueless as it's crystal clear that ggbman has a big overpair here and is unlikely to fold it.
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: JJ

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hes a 2p2er, he's def capable of making this move with TT-77.

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If he is, then he is pretty clueless as it's crystal clear that ggbman has a big overpair here and is unlikely to fold it.

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This was kinf of my thinking. Btw, no one has mentioned yet how bad my flop 3 bet is.
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: JJ

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hes a 2p2er, he's def capable of making this move with TT-77.

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If he is, then he is pretty clueless as it's crystal clear that ggbman has a big overpair here and is unlikely to fold it.

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all im saying is that ggbman has to be good here 1 in 7 times and i think he is. it's hard to tell from this one hand but i think TT from an aggressive opponent might be played the same, especially since im assuming GGBman might be playing aggressively.

Also, he might be free showdowning AKhh or something on the off chance he is freerolling.

honestly 5 handed i really think the range is being restricted a little bit too much.

finally the shorter the games get the worse folding a lot becomes.
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Old 10-19-2005, 05:04 PM
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You could be right Barron. I like villians play a lot more here if he has AhKh than TT though. Im still not sure, i definitly felt like he had me.
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