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Old 12-05-2005, 02:46 AM
winky51 winky51 is offline
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Default KQ on the turn vs a raise

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PreFlop: <font color="blue">HERO</font> is BB with <font color="blue">Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> <font color="black">K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> (10 Players)
7 <font color="darkred">folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="darkgreen">raises</font>, SB calls,

Flop: (4.00 SB) <font color="green">3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]</font> <font color="black">Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> <font color="blue">8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="green">bets</font>, SB calls,

Turn: (3.00 BB) <font color="blue">K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="green">bets</font>, SB <font color="darkgreen">raises</font>, <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="darkgreen">raises</font>, SB <font color="darkgreen">raises</font>, <font color="blue">HERO</font> calls,

River: (11.00 BB) <font color="black">4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> (2 Players)
SB <font color="green">bets</font>, <font color="blue">HERO</font> calls,

Final Pot: 13.00 BB

BB is fish that likes to bet any pair he makes on the flop with 1-2 players in the pot.

I'm figuring the turn I'm good with top 2 pair vs this guy and then he 4 bets me. On the river would it be wise to call or keep raising assuming he has 2 pair? He are HU?

Is the betting thats the problem? When I am ahead I win 1 exta, when behing lose 2 extra?
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Old 12-05-2005, 02:52 AM
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Default Re: KQ on the turn vs a raise

I go one more on the river.
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Old 12-05-2005, 02:55 AM
winky51 winky51 is offline
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Default Re: KQ on the turn vs a raise

yea I kinda figured. Thats what happens when you play 4 tables at once. You miss things, then notice after the fact.
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Old 12-05-2005, 03:01 AM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: KQ on the turn vs a raise

Hmm. Well . . .

K8 = 6 combos
K3 = 6 combos
Q8 = 6 combos
Q3 = 6 combos
83 = 9 combos
AA = 6 combos

KQ = 4 combos

KK = 1 combo
QQ = 1 combo
88 = 3 combos
33 = 3 combos

This looks very favorable.

I'll admit that after I happily 3-bet SB's turn checkraise, I'd start getting scared when, unfazed, SB fired back with a cap. So I'd probably just call on the river too.

Part of the reason I'd be scared is that, for lots of bad players, a turn checkraise is their way of saying, "I've either got a monster or I'm pretending that I do." So, once SB caps, I'm thinking, okay, it really is a monster. But what I don't know is what he considers a monster here.

Raising the river might be best. I'm not sure. If SB's not on an extended bluff, he loves his hand, but it's entirely possible you have him beat anyway.
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Old 12-05-2005, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: KQ on the turn vs a raise

39:8 on that he has a had that crushes my top two. Next time I'll reraise on the river. Simple math. about 80% of the time I earn an extra bet. Only 20% I lose an extra bet. Now I know. Always raise the river on top 2 and frown if he reraises and shows a pair of 33s.
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Old 12-05-2005, 10:30 AM
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Default Re: KQ on the turn vs a raise

Hi winky,

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BB is fish that likes to bet any pair he makes on the flop with 1-2 players in the pot.

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How on earth does that make him a fish???

Good luck,
einbert
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Old 12-05-2005, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: KQ on the turn vs a raise

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I go one more on the river.

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I woudln't, I'd play it exactly the same.
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