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Old 11-02-2005, 04:21 PM
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Default Creating a Logical System of Ethics

Sklansky's way of trying to use probability and math in conjunction with ethics makes a lot of sense to me.
However, I think what is missing is that in order for these techniques to work in a practical way, a large group of people would need to embrace that methodology.
On top of that, this group would need to assign some basic numerical values to common situations (ex a guilty man going free) in order to prioritize correctly.
Thus, when dealing with Sklansky's death penalty situation (discussed in 2+2 magazine), he arbitrarily comes up with values for murderers going free, innocent men being executed etc.
My contention is that a group of people (logicians, philosophers, policy makers) needs to somehow agree on the values given for each scenario. Example: What is the numerical value given to a woman dying if she does not have an abortion, vs the numerical value assigned to the potential life of a fetus, vs an individuals right to make a choice? Can you quantify choice in this situation?
These kinds of numerical values could be applied in many different ways and then there would be an organic, logical way to make ethical decisions based on the available knowledge.
The numerical assignments would constantly change as new information became accessible.
But without the agreement on the basic concepts, that way of working out ethical problems using probability, odds and so forth can never work.

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Old 11-02-2005, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Creating a Logical System of Ethics

Organic is what is natural. Logic is subject to the logician's attachment to beliefs. The value the logician/policy-maker gives to abortion/murder/stealing would be subjective to the person's belief-set. So this would be the same as what the Supreme Court already does. Maybe it would be a better 'system', but it would still be a system which attempts to rule or provide order which is different than what is natural or organic. I think you mean organic in terms of changing and evolving but that is just a characteristic of what is natural, not encompassing.
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Old 11-02-2005, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: Creating a Logical System of Ethics

"Logical Ethics" is an oxymoron. Morals are subjective by their very nature.

Most humans tend to base their ethical ideologies on fairness. "I don't kill people becasue I don't want to be killed, I don't steal because I don't want to be stolen from, etc."

There are some crazies out there who let fairy tales decide their ethics for them, such as (to use an *extreme* example) the archaic religions which involved human or animal sacrifice, etc.

But basing your ethical system on fairness isn't necessarily logical. The resulting moral code would be heavily weighted by your own desire to protect or serve yourself, which even though it may benefit you, benefitting yourself may not translate into a Universal benefit.

If that makes any sense. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:22 PM
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I like Utilitarianism.
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