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Old 11-25-2005, 01:31 PM
TheBlueMonster TheBlueMonster is offline
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Default Fold QQ here?

in last night's Party super Thursday early in the tourny.
Hero (t1200)
Villian (t1010)
Blinds: 10/20

Hero dealt: QQ in MP makes it 80. Villian (just moved to the table) calls from the BB.

Flop: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero bets approx. half the pot, villian insta-calls.
Turn: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Villian pushes blazingly fast.
Hero goes into his timebank and eventually just shakes his head and folds.
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Old 11-25-2005, 01:33 PM
JeanieJ JeanieJ is offline
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Default Re: Fold QQ here?

Yeah I think the fold is good here. You still have plenty of chips (though nothing amazing), and you can get away fairly cheap.
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Old 11-25-2005, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: Fold QQ here?

I've learned to respect these donkish pushes unless I have some evidence from past hands to support a call.
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Old 11-25-2005, 02:11 PM
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you have a strong opening hand , you raise, and then someone makes you defend for your whole stack.this happens to me all the time, but without any reads on this guy what can you do...fold, bust him next time.
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Old 11-25-2005, 02:51 PM
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He's in the BB and early in this internet tourney, I'd expect him to call with any two, which means 74o, 44, etc. I'd fold.
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Old 11-25-2005, 03:46 PM
TheBlueMonster TheBlueMonster is offline
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Default Re: Fold QQ here?

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you have a strong opening hand , you raise, and then someone makes you defend for your whole stack.this happens to me all the time, but without any reads on this guy what can you do...fold, bust him next time.

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unfortunately that was the last good hand I got for a loooong time. I did have the opportunity to crack AA and KK the same hand, but 9-3o isn't something you call two large raises with... [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 11-25-2005, 03:58 PM
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I've learned to respect these donkish pushes unless I have some evidence from past hands to support a call.

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fast-playing is the new slow play, i've heard. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
good fold
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Old 11-25-2005, 04:16 PM
TheBlueMonster TheBlueMonster is offline
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fast-playing is the new slow play, i've heard. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]


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nice.
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Old 11-25-2005, 06:58 PM
Dave D Dave D is offline
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Default Re: Fold QQ here?

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in last night's Party super Thursday early in the tourny.
Hero (t1200)
Villian (t1010)
Blinds: 10/20

Hero dealt: QQ in MP makes it 80. Villian (just moved to the table) calls from the BB.

Flop: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero bets approx. half the pot, villian insta-calls.
Turn: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Villian pushes blazingly fast.
Hero goes into his timebank and eventually just shakes his head and folds.

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I call. Does villian really have a 7 here heads up? Wouldn't he try to slow play more? I think you got played.
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Old 11-25-2005, 07:55 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: Fold QQ here?

i would call. i think it's very rare that 7x plays that way. some very unlikely chance at 68, but i think it's 99 / A5 much more, especially a5.
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