a standard line

baronzeus · #1 10-14-2005, 08:12 AM

5 handed AP

villain here is MDKID, a very straightforward player who is too loose preflop to be a winner. he likes to coldcall and limp trash. he will generally call any street with any piece/draw and will rarely "semibluff". also, he is capable of folding when he knows he is beat.

76s in BB

MDKID opens in CO, folded to me in BB and I call.

Flop T85r

I c/r, he calls

Turn Kr

I bet, intending to check/fold river if called or raised.

Standard? At the time of the hand I was thinking maybe c/r the turn is better when the K hits is better because it is more believable. Also, people generally check-raise more on teh turn when they have good hands.

The other line I was thinking is check/call, check/call, check/fold, but this sucks in comparison to even the first line since i need very little fold equity to make it +EV to put in that 2nd bet on the flop.

In short I just want thoughts on what you guys think since this is super standard for me but it might totally different for you guys.

Also, does any put in a last stab on the river vs this type of opponent?

wheelz · #2 10-14-2005, 08:16 AM

that's how i do

Stefan_K · #3 10-14-2005, 08:26 AM

i play it the same, i dont like the checkraise idee there are to many ways that could go wrong. i think a straitforward bet is the best you could do

baronzeus · #4 10-14-2005, 08:27 AM

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i play it the same, i dont like the checkraise idee there are to many ways that could go wrong. i think a straitforward bet is the best you could do

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are you talking about the turn?

i was considering that as well. c/c flop bet turn. this might even have more fold equity.

Danenania · #5 10-14-2005, 08:49 AM

Not sure why you would not want to fire the river UI against the opponent you describe. If he could call the turn with any draw or piece and also maybe fold some small pairs that he thinks did not get there on the river I would guess it works out to be profitable.

baronzeus · #6 10-14-2005, 08:58 AM

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Not sure why you would not want to fire the river UI against the opponent you describe. If he could call the turn with any draw or piece and also maybe fold some small pairs that he thinks did not get there on the river I would guess it works out to be profitable.

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i guess it would really depend on the river card. in this case it was a Q and I check-folded . but maybe I bet a low card like a 3.

the only hands i could think of that call the turn are AJ AQ QJ that I "beat". so i guess any non-broadway river is bettable against this guy?

#7 10-14-2005, 09:30 AM

You c/r the flop because it allows your bet on a blank turn to fold overcards.

krishanleong · #8 10-14-2005, 09:34 AM

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Standard? At the time of the hand I was thinking maybe c/r the turn is better when the K hits is better because it is more believable.

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But the K doesn't always come on the turn.

Krishan

Jeff W · #9 10-14-2005, 09:57 AM

Why not bet the river unless it improves a straight draw hand(A, Q or J) or it gives you a pair(7 or 6)? Pot will be laying 6.25:1 on a bluff.

Victor · #10 10-14-2005, 03:28 PM

this is how i play my draws in the blinds as well as my made hands. you will get many folds on turn from unimproved hands. if he calls i would go ahead and fire the river since there are many gutshots that he would call the turn with.

its good for image too. now when you take this line with top/mid pair he will call you down with 22.