So I'm the chip leader...SB playalong

macdaddy991 · #1 12-13-2005, 04:05 PM

5$ MTT, I have just transfered to a new table, so reads are limited. At this point in the tournament, I am the chip leader. I would like to keep it this way.

Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: amiller03431 ( $18504 )
 Seat 2: BOUTTHAT111 ( $31840 )
Seat 3: rogerston ( $52848 )
Seat 5: Hero ( $70718 )
Seat 6: sconova ( $36842 )
Seat 7: welder39 ( $41981 )
Seat 10: The_McNasty ( $14718 )
Seat 4: ziggy830 ( $36397 )
Seat 8: spinnochio ( $18354 )
Seat 9: ozziner8 ( $14923 )
Trny:18242073 Level:13
Blinds (750/1500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
welder39 folds.
spinnochio folds.
ozziner8 folds.
The_McNasty folds.
 amiller03431 raises [3000].
 BOUTTHAT111 calls [3000].
rogerston folds.
ziggy830 calls [3000].
 Hero calls (small blind)[2250].
sconova folds.

 Pot 13,500
** Dealing Flop ** [ A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
Hero?

FUpaymee · #2 12-13-2005, 04:08 PM

edit: never mind, misread the post...hero is in SB

macdaddy991 · #3 12-13-2005, 04:09 PM

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what is the action to you after the flop?

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I am first to act in the SB

FUpaymee · #4 12-13-2005, 04:21 PM

Since this is a $5 party MTT, any number of hands could have called the min raise preflop, and I doubt any of them were AK. I'd be a little worried about AJ and possibly AQ, but I'd throw a decent sized bet out there and just tread carefully from here on out. Odds are you probably have the best hand, but you gotta protect it from straight draws so I wouldn't check. If someone re-raises you, depending on your read of the player and the size of his stack, I'd either call or push.

stevepa · #5 12-13-2005, 04:28 PM

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Odds are you probably have the best hand, but you gotta protect it from straight draws so I wouldn't check.

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Why do you have to protect it from straight draws? KQ is dead, KT, QT are unlikely and have 4 outs. I don't mind giving them free cards.

I check the flop, probably check-raising. The pot is pretty huge so any bet is going to represent a large percentage of the players stack. Hopefully someone commits themselves with KK, QQ, TT or some kind of jack. I don't particularly like betting, because if you bet and the min-raiser pushes, it lets the bigger stacks fold hands like KJ-JT. Also, if the min-raiser checks, there's a reasonable chance one of the other two players takes a shot at the pot.

Don't worry about being behind here, if you are then you lose all your chips. Worry about maximizing your win against hands that can pay you off like pocket pairs, jacks and weaker aces.

Steve

jcm4ccc · #6 12-13-2005, 04:36 PM

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Don't worry about being behind here

[/ QUOTE ] I think you do need to worry about being behind. You had a raiser and two callers (even though it was a min-raise, it was still a substantial portion of their chips). Playing AT like you have the nuts is just donking away chips, I think. You need to tread carefully. Check the hand, assess the situation, play some poker.

#7 12-14-2005, 12:17 PM

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Since this is a $5 party MTT,

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Insta call.

MrBrightside · #8 12-14-2005, 12:27 PM

I have a question.. do you not think the MP makes this same play with a A9, A8, JK, JQ, or small PP often enough to make it profitable? For the record, I would call. even if we lose, we have a good stack, and I think there is a decent chance the MP is putting a move on the shortie with these hands hoping he goes away (the shortie would still have 10 bb, so it's not like he's completely committed).

#9 12-14-2005, 04:42 PM

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Since this is a $5 party MTT,

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Insta call.

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Let me elaborate on this a little more. If this were a higher buy in event, I think this would be a difficult decision. But given that it is arguably the donkiest donkfest of online MTT's, you absolutely have to call. As others have said, he doesn't go broke if he calls and loses and I think he gets shown Ax (x<=T) by the all-in guy far too often to argue for a fold. All-in guy may not believe that he has the best hand, but he certainly hopes that he does. I have even seen this play with a hand like KK when there were 2 Aces on board. It's like they just pray that it's best and go with it. What if all-in guy does have AK, AQ, AJ, or JJ? Doesn't he just call in this spot? Even the donkiest of $5 partiers couldn't resist trying to trap with any of these holdings. And don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking anyone who plays the $5 party MTT's because I am one of them. And I have seen situations like this and folded the best hand many times.

jcm4ccc · #10 12-13-2005, 04:24 PM

Luckily the board has no real draws on it, so if you are ahead now, the chances are great that you will be ahead on the river, even if everybody stays in the hand.

The preflop action is a little worrisome. I would check this hand and see what develops. The nice thing is that the preflop raiser is the short stack. He is likely to push this flop. If he pushes and everybody else folds, I would certainly call. If everybody checks and the button bets, I might push. If BOUTTHAT111 bets, I don't know what I'm doing. Depends on the size of the bet, I guess.