When to let off with AK?

og5 · #1 03-16-2005, 07:21 PM

This is one of those situations where I hate pot odds. I went to the river because the odds were there. I couldn't put CO on a hand because he just sat down, I was hoping he was calling down overcards like I was. Should I have just folded the flop, turn, river?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO (poster) 3-bets, 3 folds, Hero caps, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, CO raises, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (9.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, CO bets, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

River: (12.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, CO bets, Hero calls, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: 14.75 BB

Chris Daddy Cool · #2 03-16-2005, 07:43 PM

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I was hoping he was calling down overcards like I was.

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with the difference being that he's not calling down, he's betting.

og5 · #3 03-16-2005, 07:48 PM

Absolutely right [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Though it's not uncommon at 1/2 for someone to do that. Fold anyway?

og5 · #4 03-16-2005, 09:57 PM

Can someone comment on this? I find myself in this situation a lot, overcards to an all rag board. (though this one is somewhat coordinated) Would you guys just fold it on the flop or continue?

Thanks

wrto4556 · #5 03-16-2005, 10:10 PM

AK is a drawing hand. Play it like one.

Roland19 · #6 03-16-2005, 10:15 PM

AK is not a drawing hand. What do you mean specifically by this comment? Are you implying that our hero call down based on pot odds and fold on the river. Situations like this are tough because it's hard to know if your overcard outs are good. In this spot, without an insanely definitive read, I call the turn and flop and fold the river. The pot is big, true, but I don't think there is any chance at all that your hand is good here.

bilbo-san · #7 03-16-2005, 10:22 PM

How does everyone feel about the cap? Given that MP1 called, I'm not sure CO's 3bet is just a "my hand is too good to fold" type of raise. If this was suited I would re-raise, here I prefer to just call. Am I weak for thinking that?

Hoi Polloi · #8 03-16-2005, 10:24 PM

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I was hoping he was calling down overcards like I was.

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with the difference being that he's not calling down, he's betting.

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good one; lol

Hoi Polloi · #9 03-16-2005, 10:26 PM

Where's bisonbison to say:

"post this in micro stakes. seriously"

???

wrto4556 · #10 03-16-2005, 10:30 PM

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AK is not a drawing hand. What do you mean specifically by this comment? Are you implying that our hero call down based on pot odds and fold on the river. Situations like this are tough because it's hard to know if your overcard outs are good. In this spot, without an insanely definitive read, I call the turn and flop and fold the river. The pot is big, true, but I don't think there is any chance at all that your hand is good here.

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How can you say AK is not a drawing hand and then talk about outs? AK is a drawing hand. You are drawing to a big pair, trips, two pair, straights, and flushes. The guy is being aggressive, and I assumme that your A-high is no good. In this example to have outs to TPTK and a backdoor flush.

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