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Old 10-15-2005, 08:00 PM
CallYNotRaise06 CallYNotRaise06 is offline
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Default mulit tabling vs 1 table

not sure if this is the correct spot for this post...

generally, which carries less variance 3 or 4 tabling lower limit games, or 1 tabling the highest limit your br can afford? i think i can make more mulit-tabling, but when im runnin a little cold there are some big swings.

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Old 10-15-2005, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: mulit tabling vs 1 table

Assuming you play equally well when multitabling, you should have lower variance with more smaller games.
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Old 10-15-2005, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: mulit tabling vs 1 table

your using variance and limits incorrectly... when u have more money at stake you will naturally have higher variance (i.e. i lost 100 at the 5/10 table vs i lost 20 at the 1/2 table).. however remove the $ and add BB instead and u have the exact same results -10bb if you play equally at all limits then u will lose some EV when multitabling but will make up for it with an increase in hands played.. as for the variance you will naturally have larger swings when you have $400 spread out accross 4 2/4 games as opposed to 150 at one 3/6 game... does that make sense... i hope so
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Old 10-15-2005, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: mulit tabling vs 1 table

Another thing to take into consideration is that your BR requirements do not increase when multi-tabling but they do when you increase limits.

For example if you use the rule of a 300bb bankroll. You could play one or many 3/6 tables but if you want to play (one or many) at 10/20 you would need a BR of $6000.
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Old 10-16-2005, 06:03 AM
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Default Re: mulit tabling vs 1 table

Assuming you play equally well multitabling as you do single tabling, varience is the same in both if your measurement of time is hands played rather than hours spent playing. The reason people say that you have lower varience multitabling is because the shorter the session, the larger the varience.

if you play 100k hands, although your varience is high over each individual session, if you count the 100k hand session as a whole, your return will be relatively close to your winrate (random guess would be True winrate +/- 1 BB/100, while over 10k hands you would have your True winrate +/- 3 BB/100).

The only way to decrease varience (and it doesn't really decrease varience but rather deem it less significant) is to play more hands. Multitabling you will make varience less significant in less time.

Best to think in terms of hands rather than time.
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Old 10-16-2005, 11:36 AM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: mulit tabling vs 1 table

4-tabling 2/4 does not require the same bankroll as 1-tabling 8/16. No matter how many tables you play simultaneously, your bankroll needs are the same as they would be for one table.

Variance is a function of number of hands, not of time.
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Old 10-16-2005, 08:48 PM
CallYNotRaise06 CallYNotRaise06 is offline
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Default Re: mulit tabling vs 1 table

thanks for the replies... just wondering does anyone know how to calculate your variance? or a previous post that could explain how?
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Old 10-17-2005, 09:17 AM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: mulit tabling vs 1 table

variance = standard deviation. get a stats geek to show you how to calculate SD.
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Old 10-17-2005, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: mulit tabling vs 1 table

Technically, variance is standard deviation squared.

The variance is the expected squared deviation from the mean. Suppose you average +2 BB/100 hands. Your results for three 100 hand sessions are +3 BB, -2 BB, +5 BB. The first is +1 over your mean, the second is -4, the third is +3. Square these numbers to get 1, 16 and 9. Add them up to get 26. Divide by 2 (sometimes people divide by 3 instead, but it doesn't make much difference over thousands of hands, which is what you need for a reliable standard deviation anyway, so don't worry about it) to get 13. That's the variance (technically, an estimate of the true variance, if you divided by 3 you would get the sample or population variance). The square root of 13, 3.61 BB, is your standard deviation.
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Old 10-17-2005, 10:33 PM
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Default Re: mulit tabling vs 1 table

thanks alot aaron
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