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Old 06-25-2005, 01:33 AM
minwoo minwoo is offline
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Default $55 hand ....never know what to do here

Taking into consideration the stack sizes...it's pretty clear that I can just fold into the money.

I am UTG. Big stack is BB.

***** Hand History for Game 2259075738 *****
400/800 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 13382589) - Sat Jun 25 00:55:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 19564 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 4: ajmian (1055)
Seat 5: wwwobbe (6700)
Seat 8: Hero (1870)
Seat 9: Jim22Bullets (375)
ajmian posts small blind (200)
wwwobbe posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ks, Ah ]

Hero - push, call, or fold?
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Old 06-25-2005, 01:38 AM
ZebraAss ZebraAss is offline
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Default Re: $55 hand ....never know what to do here

ICM
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Old 06-25-2005, 01:53 AM
minwoo minwoo is offline
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Default Re: $55 hand ....never know what to do here

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ICM

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gonna have to learn how to use that one day... [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 06-25-2005, 02:05 AM
Meatmaw Meatmaw is offline
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Default Re: $55 hand ....never know what to do here

AKo is too strong a hand to make this questionable. This is a definite push. Now, a hand like KQ or A5s, that's a tougher call.

And now, with analysis, with BB calling range of (22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs) and SB/BTN of (TT+,AQs+,AKo), it's +.7% to push.

Even with BB at (22+,A2+,K5+,Q9+) and others at (TT+,AQs+,AKo), it's still +.2%.

I just can't pass up the chance to hit ~4000 and run for 1st v. scraping for 3rd.
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Old 06-25-2005, 02:26 AM
minwoo minwoo is offline
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Default Re: $55 hand ....never know what to do here

How about if you had pushed the previous hand...making the current push look more like a bluff?
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Old 06-25-2005, 02:34 AM
Meatmaw Meatmaw is offline
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Default Re: $55 hand ....never know what to do here

even better. i think the fear is more 'what if they have a coinflip hand' going into this situation where you could sneak in. I love it even more, the looser image I have here. Perhaps that is misguided but I love chasing that first place. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 06-25-2005, 02:41 AM
stupidsucker stupidsucker is offline
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Default Re: $55 hand ....never know what to do here

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AKo is too strong a hand to make this questionable. This is a definite push. Now, a hand like KQ or A5s, that's a tougher call.

And now, with analysis, with BB calling range of (22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs) and SB/BTN of (TT+,AQs+,AKo), it's +.7% to push.

Even with BB at (22+,A2+,K5+,Q9+) and others at (TT+,AQs+,AKo), it's still +.2%.

I just can't pass up the chance to hit ~4000 and run for 1st v. scraping for 3rd.

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I would push this if I were playing it. I 8table so I wouldnt think about it at all but

If I am playing one table I limp.

Fold to a push from the big stack unless the small stack is in then I will call.

My ITM is going to be over 90% if I just let the AK go if the going gets rough.

The main thing is when you limp, you gain the information from both small stacks if they are playing or not. This is priceless IMO.

what does the ICM say?
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Old 06-25-2005, 02:44 AM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: $55 hand ....never know what to do here

I think this is terrible poker. You can't get into a confrontation that is anywhere near profitable here, at least against big stack. Getting called with 32o by big stack is not a good thing. If you want to win money, you've got to squeak into the money at times. In a spot very much like this, I had a big stack that was willing to call my push with any 2, and I mean any 2. In that case, you really should be able to lay this down either after limping or open-folding.

That said, unless big stack and others loosen up a lot, push it.
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Old 06-25-2005, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: $55 hand ....never know what to do here

btw this is completely insane, if you move allin, theres no @#^@^ way in hell you want the big stack to call you. If you do want the big stack to call you then you are just wrong and have a huge lack of understanding of what your goals are in a sit and go. I'm not sure if this is what you were implying though, it was hard for me to figure out.
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Old 06-25-2005, 02:53 AM
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Default Re: $55 hand ....never know what to do here

push push
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