Show me a good bluff....PLEASE! - Page 2

AZK · #1 06-25-2005, 04:20 PM

It got mixed/controversial responses on the board, but look up Gift of Gabs Commerce 10/20 hand a while back...I think that is a good bluff.

soah · #2 06-25-2005, 04:52 PM

I limp with something, others limp behind, bb makes some raise that's much too small to chase me out, so I call, everyone else calls, five to the flop. Flop is ace high and I have some sort of a draw at something. BB bets some amount, I call, everyone else folds. Turn is a blank and BB checks, so I take the pot.

Sorry for the lack of detail... you can still follow the logic behind the hand without it though. I call on the flop because I have a strong draw, any my opponents absolutely hate folding, so there's no point in raising. I figure someone must have an ace. But everyone folds and the preflop raiser checks the turn, at which point I realize that he doesn't have (or can beat) an ace and assumes that I have it.

autobet · #3 06-25-2005, 05:58 PM

representing the ace heads up can always be an opportunity to bluff in either limit or no limit

soah · #4 06-25-2005, 06:43 PM

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representing the ace heads up can always be an opportunity to bluff in either limit or no limit

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You can certainly TRY to represent the ace whenever it flops, but you won't always be given credit for it, and sometimes your opponent will have the hand you're trying to represent.

In the example I posted, with five people to the flop it should be "obvious" that someone has an ace. And when I called there were still three players to act behind me, so I can't be calling with trash with the hopes of launching a delayed bluff... it turns out I only had some straight draw or something, but my play looks completely consistent with a made hand to everyone else. And when my opponent gives up control of the betting, it's telling me that he's giving up on the hand. So my bluff here is good because my previous action in the hand is consistent with the hand I'm representing, and my opponent is showing weakness.

autobet · #5 06-25-2005, 07:07 PM

Obviously you should not try to represent the ace everytime, but it is one of the best times to bluff if you opp is aceless.

happyjaypee · #6 06-25-2005, 09:15 PM

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I limp with something, others limp behind, bb makes some raise that's much too small to chase me out, so I call, everyone else calls, five to the flop. Flop is ace high and I have some sort of a draw at something. BB bets some amount, I call, everyone else folds. Turn is a blank and BB checks, so I take the pot.

Sorry for the lack of detail... you can still follow the logic behind the hand without it though. I call on the flop because I have a strong draw, any my opponents absolutely hate folding, so there's no point in raising. I figure someone must have an ace. But everyone folds and the preflop raiser checks the turn, at which point I realize that he doesn't have (or can beat) an ace and assumes that I have it.

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I think the best advice I can give u is play the hand your opponent put you on. The above hand is a great exemple of that.

I also had trouble whit bluffing early in my "poker carrer". I was playing to tight and not bluffing enough. That also lead to not getting full value off my strong hands. I started to memorize how individual opponent were reacting to my play on hand I was strong but could'nt get paid. Then, when the situation was right and I knew I could represent a stronger hand, I started picking up a lot of pots.

my 2 cents

-Happy [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

bugstud · #7 06-25-2005, 09:33 PM

GoG hand

http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/...t=all&vc=1

KaneKungFu123 · #8 06-26-2005, 04:18 PM

i didnt read that whole thread, but his bluff at the end is nice, but his turn is horible.

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GoG hand

http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/...t=all&vc=1

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captZEEbo1 · #9 06-26-2005, 06:10 PM

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i didnt read that whole thread, but his bluff at the end is nice, but his turn is horible.

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GoG hand

http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/...t=all&vc=1

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Why is his turn so bad? He figured his outs were relatively disguised, so he would get paid off.

MoDOH · #10 06-25-2005, 05:10 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

SB in this hand is of average aggr. and skill. Once he checked the flop I put him on either AK or or a med. PP.

MP:s underbet is his way of trying to steal pots...

Hero ($574.34)
Button ($327.5)
SB ($202.45)
BB ($127.55)
UTG ($352)
MP ($588.55)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, MP calls $2, Hero calls $2, Button calls $2, SB (poster) raises to $9, 1 fold, MP calls $8, Hero calls $8, Button folds.

Flop: ($34) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, MP bets $5, Hero raises to $30, SB calls $30, MP folds.

Turn: ($99) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $65, SB calls $65.

River: ($229) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $125, SB folds.

Final Pot: $354