77 Turn - Page 3

private joker · #1 11-14-2005, 04:55 PM

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Until the villain checks the turn, I think the chances of him having overcards or the flush draw are worthy. That hand changed with the turn check imo.

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] You're giving him credit for more of a hand when he checks??

BigEndian · #2 11-14-2005, 04:59 PM

Betting the turn would be semi-bluffing with overs. Also his overs could have very marginal showdown value. Bet to win.

With a PP he has a show-downable hand but what kind of hands are calling him 2-cold?

He's taken a very confusing line, but this is my best guess as to what he's playing and what he might be thinking.

Would you check the turn on a flush draw or with overs after CRing the flop? I hope not.

- Jim

W. Deranged · #3 11-14-2005, 04:49 PM

I think one of the main reasons I bet this is because if I check behind here on the turn I feel very uncomfortable folding the river unimproved, as my turn check is inviting a bet from someone with almost anything, including 4s, 5s, 66, 33, and possibly even A high.

So I feel very much that I need to put in one more big bet on this hand. It seems quite clear to me that it is much better to do so on the turn than on the river (for protection, value against draws, limiting reverse implied odds, etc...).

BigEndian · #4 11-14-2005, 04:53 PM

If you check the turn, you are definitely calling the river for one bet and not over-calling.

- Jim

brettbrettr · #5 11-14-2005, 04:57 PM

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If you check the turn, you are definitely calling the river for one bet and not over-calling.

- Jim

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I think Will is just tyring to stay in control of the hand and not give free cards.

#6 11-14-2005, 05:35 PM

I miss you. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Bet the turn.

shant · #7 11-15-2005, 08:06 PM

I bet, they both called.

River was some blankish card that didn't complete draws and it went check, check, check and I win. Tag had an open ender and fish had a flush draw.

ErrantNight · #8 11-15-2005, 11:21 PM

i dislike the tag's line

smurfitup · #9 11-16-2005, 01:01 AM

i thing tag's line is fine... he check raises the flop to face co w/ 2 bets and put op to the test... once the cutoff stays in, he knows he can't win the pot on the turn and decides to keep his draw as cheap as possible. i'd probably play it the same, fwiw.

shant · #10 11-16-2005, 01:20 AM

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i thing tag's line is fine... he check raises the flop to face co w/ 2 bets and put op to the test... once the cutoff stays in, he knows he can't win the pot on the turn and decides to keep his draw as cheap as possible. i'd probably play it the same, fwiw.

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Why would you checkraise me with a draw and try to shut out someone who is going to pay off when you hit? It's a bad play.