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12-18-2005, 10:25 PM
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Re: If it turns out that Bush broke a law with domestic spying....
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it'll NEVER happen - not in a thousand years.... UNLESS the House/Senate get taken over by Democrats in 2006 - but as long as Republicans are there, they won't crucify their president. - [/ QUOTE ] If enough of the electorate wanted an impeachment it would happen regardless of the congressional makeup. Stu 
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12-18-2005, 11:24 PM
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If enough of the electorate wanted an impeachment it would happen regardless of the congressional makeup. [/ QUOTE ] The electorate is a group of sheeple who are constantly inundated with propaganda. People dont realize how big of a deal this is. Unless CNN, MSNBC, fox news, local papers etc say its important, people wont think it is. People thought nat holloway was important even though there were much more important things to care about.
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12-19-2005, 01:20 AM
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Re: If it turns out that Bush broke a law with domestic spying....
So, what you're saying is the electorate was demanding that Clinton be impeached for getting a knobjob?
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12-19-2005, 01:26 AM
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So, what you're saying is the electorate was demanding that Clinton be impeached for getting a knobjob? [/ QUOTE ] Thats what the electorate thought, and that is one reason why he did not get convicted. However any reasonably intelligent person who followed the story knows he didn't get impeached, disbarred, or fined for getting a knobjob. Stu
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#5
12-19-2005, 01:30 AM
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Re: If it turns out that Bush broke a law with domestic spying....
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[ QUOTE ] So, what you're saying is the electorate was demanding that Clinton be impeached for getting a knobjob? [/ QUOTE ] Thats what the electorate thought, and that is one reason why he did not get convicted. However any reasonably intelligent person who followed the story knows he didn't get impeached, disbarred, or fined for getting a knobjob. Stu [/ QUOTE ] Right, he got impeached because he didn't think that a knobjob counted as sex.
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12-19-2005, 02:49 AM
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Here is a good summary of what actually happened. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Impeachment is a means of removing criminal officials from high office. [/ QUOTE ] I'm never allowing my wife to give me head again, I don't want to be a criminal. [ QUOTE ] Republicans, who controlled both houses of Congress at the time, believed that Bill Clinton's suspected offenses qualified as impeachable high crimes. [/ QUOTE ] Now this is closer to the truth. [ QUOTE ] Article I: Perjury before grand jury on August 17, 1998 Article II: Perjury in Paula Jones case on December 23, 1997 and January 17, 1998 Article III: Obstruction of justice related to Paula Jones case Article IV: Abuse of high office [/ QUOTE ] None of which had anything to do with Whitewater, which is why he was being investigated in the first place. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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#8
12-19-2005, 12:43 PM
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Re: If it turns out that Bush broke a law with domestic spying....
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Now this is closer to the truth. [ QUOTE ] Article I: Perjury before grand jury on August 17, 1998 Article II: Perjury in Paula Jones case on December 23, 1997 and January 17, 1998 Article III: Obstruction of justice related to Paula Jones case Article IV: Abuse of high office [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Nothing in there about blow jobs or tossing the salad. Stu
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12-19-2005, 12:52 PM
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Re: If it turns out that Bush broke a law with domestic spying....
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[ QUOTE ] Right, he got impeached because he didn't think that a knobjob counted as sex. [/ QUOTE ] Here is a good summary of what actually happened. Stu [/ QUOTE ] Just to quote your source: [ QUOTE ] Allegations of perjury In his deposition for the Jones lawsuit, Clinton denied having "sexual relations" with Lewinsky. Based on the evidence provided by Tripp, Starr concluded that this sworn testimony was false and perjurious. The issue was greatly confused by an unusual definition for sexual contact which excluded oral sex. This definition was ordered by the Independent Counsel's Office during the initial questioning which led to the perjury allegations. [2] During the deposition, Clinton was asked "have you ever had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky, as that term is defined in Deposition Exhibit 1, as modified by the Court." The judge ordered that Clinton be given an opportunity to review the agreed definition. Afterwards, based on the defintion created by the Independent Counsel's Office, which was limited strictly to intercourse, Clinton answered "I have never had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky." Clinton later stated that he believed the agreed-upon definition of sexual relations excluded his receiving oral sex. [/ QUOTE ] So he got impeached on allegations of perjury because he testified that he had not had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky because as it was defined, oral sex didn't count.
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#10
12-19-2005, 02:37 AM
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Re: If it turns out that Bush broke a law with domestic spying....
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Thats what the electorate thought, and that is one reason why he did not get convicted. [/ QUOTE ] I'm confused, are you telling me that the electorate wanted him to be impeached and that is why he was not convicted? That makes no sense at all. [ QUOTE ] However any reasonably intelligent person who followed the story knows he didn't get impeached, disbarred, or fined for getting a knobjob. [/ QUOTE ] What for then? All she did was give him head, so, it couldn't have been for sexual intercourse. Oh, I know, you are implying that he was impeached for false statements to a grand jury that an unbiased court of law subsequently ruled were irrelevant to the Paula Jones case, right?
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