Capped pf with JJ

onegymrat · #1 08-31-2005, 05:53 PM

9/18 live at the Mecca. MP opens while a very loose-passive coldcalls. I 3-bet with J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Button calls three bets cold. Folded back to MP who caps it like she means it. All call. Four to the flop.

FLOP: K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

MP bets. All call.

TURN: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

MP bets. Loose-passive calls...

What would be best?

#2 08-31-2005, 05:54 PM

Call so long as it is only one bet on each street. If it is too bets, look at who made it two bets. Fold at any point if the loose passive raises or bets.

bryan4967 · #3 08-31-2005, 06:00 PM

fold

MyTurn2Raise · #4 08-31-2005, 06:11 PM

what's the MP like?

onegymrat · #5 08-31-2005, 06:17 PM

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what's the MP like?

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Off duty dealer chick from another casino. Plenty aggressive but certainly not the usual fishiness of a dealer. Loose-passive is...well, very loose-passive. Almost shy. Button is unknown. All I know is that he cold-calls too much.

BoxTree · #6 08-31-2005, 06:24 PM

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9/18 live at the Mecca. MP opens while a very loose-passive coldcalls. I 3-bet with J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Button calls three bets cold. Folded back to MP who caps it like she means it. All call. Four to the flop.

FLOP: K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

MP bets. All call.

TURN: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

MP bets. Loose-passive calls...

What would be best?

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River a five and lose to 52o. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

But seriously, if you think MP is a reasonable player, I raise the turn. If she calls out of desperation she has AA or QQ and you're done with this hand unless you boat up (d-uh). If she 3-bets, you're done with this hand immediately. I don't like folding here especially if there's a glimmer of hope that she'll fold QQ (or AA, but that's not going to happen). Would she play like this with TT or AQs? Probably not. But I still think you have enough fold equity to take a shot with a turn raise.

BoxTree · #7 08-31-2005, 06:25 PM

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what's the MP like?

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Off duty dealer chick from another casino.

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Ohh...depending on which one it is, I'd raise the turn with LESS than JJ. Some of those dealer chicks think they're awesome when they make good (actually, bad) laydowns in big pots.

gh9801 · #8 08-31-2005, 06:26 PM

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what's the MP like?

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Off duty dealer chick from another casino. Plenty aggressive but certainly not the usual fishiness of a dealer. Loose-passive is...well, very loose-passive. Almost shy. Button is unknown. All I know is that he cold-calls too much.

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What do you think MP thinks of you? Is she respecting your threebet, or does she just have a hand? Much more often than not you're against AA, AK, KK, QQ than TT/AQ here, so I'd fold

onegymrat · #9 08-31-2005, 06:30 PM

Hi Box,

That's what I'm thinking, to raise. If I simply call, I'll have to call the river. I don't want to fold, well, because folding means I lose. Supposing that no one has a king, what would my intention be? If I raised out button, and MP calls (as would loose-passive maybe), what is my action on the river? Free showdown?

damaniac · #10 08-31-2005, 06:37 PM

Given the pot size, if MP is capable of folding, great time to raise as loose passive may have a K, but probably not, and you're in a protected pot with LP. Calling down sucks as I just see almost nothing (maybe a very aggressively played AQ/TT, but doubting both) that you beat here vs MP, to say nothing of LP. So if you think there is a good chance MP can lay down QQ/AA here to a raise in a protected pot, go for it. Otherwise, I'd fold.