Too aggressively played? Live 15/30

[NMcNasty]

This is one of the rare circumstances where just calling preflop is also an option. If you think the raiser might not fold AJ or AT or worse to a rag flop and might play back at you with a suited 20 on a semibluff, it means you have to hit your hand to win. So you might as well save yourself two bets, and since your hand is kind of like a suited connector you really don't mind that much if the blinds call as you're getting decent implied odds. I still prefer folding preflop, and I think I even like 3 betting second best, but I would at least strongly consider just calling.

[onegymrat]

Hand 1: Thanks for all the terrific replies and advice. You're right, Rick, the 20 game at Commerce is a heck of a lot better than the 15 game at Hawaiian Gardens. I don't like the way I played this hand. However, I had to either make him lay down his hand on the turn (JJ, TT, AK, AQ, or find out if he's capable of mucking even bigger) or dump it on the flop.

TURN: Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

UTG bets, I raise. He gives a big sigh and calls. Ah, crap!

RIVER: rag

He checks and I check behind. He shows K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and my hand is no good.

Hand 2: I thought my turn raise may have been a bit overaggressive, but since it was headsup AND I had the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], I knew he couldn't go over the top of me. He was certainly a decent player, and with the "untightness" of the table, he would have capped it preflop with AA or KK to get the money in rather than fool around. I am only behind to Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], which seemed very reasonable. I was going to check the river unimproved.

TURN: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB checks, I bet. Limper folds. SB check-raises, I 3-bet, SB calls.

RIVER: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB angrily checks, I bet, he calls.

I show my nutflush and he shows his neighbor his cards and throws his cards into the muck...very pissed at me. I'm sensing Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. I wanted to see his cards, but was not about to be a prick about it.

[Rick Nebiolo]

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You're right, Rick, the 20 game at Commerce is a heck of a lot better than the 15 game at Hawaiian Gardens.

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I was thinking you were at Commerce playing the 15/30 "one chip small blind nut peddler game", which is now located near the 9/18 games. It's a long hike to the 20/40 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

~ Rick

[onegymrat]

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You're right, Rick, the 20 game at Commerce is a heck of a lot better than the 15 game at Hawaiian Gardens.

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I was thinking you were at Commerce playing the 15/30 "one chip small blind nut peddler game", which is now located near the 9/18 games. It's a long hike to the 20/40 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].
~ Rick

[/ QUOTE ]Ugh, even a masochist like me won't play the Commerce 15 game!

[Rick Nebiolo]

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Ugh, even a masochist like me won't play the Commerce 15 game!

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I've played it while waiting for the $400 NL. It's amazing how much the single $5 small blind has ruined it.

BTW, remember this Speed Racer RGP post? (note that you probably need to scroll to the top to get the lead post).

~ Rick