when the PFR doesn't bet

wheelz · #1 09-17-2005, 04:43 PM

Button is unknown, SB is loose.

Prima Poker 20/40 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Button raises, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (3 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (3 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, SB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6 BB

baronzeus · #2 09-17-2005, 04:54 PM

looks good...can't imagine he's bluffing often enough. i'm guessing its AA 70% of the time and TT 20% of the time and the other 10% of the time complete trash.

this guy is an easy buddy lister

tizim · #3 09-17-2005, 06:28 PM

This is a spot where logic tells me one thing and experience dictates another. I've noticed that when the pfr checks the flop and I lead the turn, I VERY frequently get bluff-raised. Anyone notice the same? Because of this, and because the pfr checked both the flop AND the turn, which lessens the likelyhood of a slowplay since people rarely check behind both streets with something like top set, I call the river.

krishanleong · #4 09-17-2005, 06:31 PM

Action makes near 0 sense. I'd consider looking him up getting 6-1 which isn't small. I'm not sure.

Krishan

arkady · #5 09-17-2005, 06:42 PM

hah, your range is much too small.

it could be any pocket pair, AK, AT, really, god knows what.

I would check/call that river though, at least try to induce a bluff - otherwise what happened will happen, you get raised.

tizim · #6 09-17-2005, 06:46 PM

I think there's tons of value in a river bet, especially since wheelz' line looks like a bluff.

arkady · #7 09-17-2005, 07:05 PM

No there is not, he is not calling with trash here (which he can have) and is raising any monster (more likely)

jason_t · #8 09-17-2005, 07:15 PM

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I think there's tons of value in a river bet, especially since wheelz' line looks like a bluff.

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What's he calling with?

twowords · #9 09-17-2005, 07:23 PM

I would check and call river every time. What calls that you beat?

#10 09-17-2005, 08:06 PM

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I would check and call river every time. What calls that you beat?

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I agree. If he's so far above the rim that he would check a monster until he KNEW you hit a pair and is able to get a big bet out of you, God Bless Him....he deserves your call.