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Old 12-29-2005, 11:54 AM
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Default Flopped flush draw on failed blind steal - call push?

Sorry I donīt have the hand history, itīs quite simple though.
$1 MTT. 18 of 260 left, weīre in the money.
Blinds 1200/2400, average stack 20k, villain and I both have 30k. Table very passive, everyone seems afraid to commit chips. Have been stealing the blinds a few times, havenīt been caught yet.
Folded around to me, I have 46 of clubs on the button, I raise to 7k to steal, villain calls from the BB. Flop comes AT3 with two clubs. Villain pushes 22k into a 15k pot.
Am I supposed to call here, because the only hand I can think of that has me in really bad shape is a bigger flush draw. This aggresive play is unusual for the villain he tends to minraise and minbet, even with good hands.
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Old 12-29-2005, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: Flopped flush draw on failed blind steal - call push?

You're a 2-1 dog and you're getting 1.7-1 on a call, so it's a fold.
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Old 12-29-2005, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: Flopped flush draw on failed blind steal - call push?

Yeah, fold. He might be on a draw as well, but your hand can't hold up against anything. Especially not for the price you're getting and the amount of your stack it will consume.
(Also, are there antes? If there are you might think about open-pushing from the button on your steals.)
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: Flopped flush draw on failed blind steal - call push?

What do you mean 2-1 dog?

I realize I may sound stupid. But how do you know what kind of a dog he is w/o knowing what hand he's up against?
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: Flopped flush draw on failed blind steal - call push?

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What do you mean 2-1 dog?

I realize I may sound stupid. But how do you know what kind of a dog he is w/o knowing what hand he's up against?

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Hes assuming you lose without hitting the flush and win when you hit the flush
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: Flopped flush draw on failed blind steal - call push?

You're 2-1 to hit a flush. If you miss your flush you have 6-high, and thus can not win. If your opponent has any pair higher than sixes you're a 2-1 dog. If your opponent has a higher flush draw you're even more than a 2-1 dog. The only situation where you're NOT at least a 2-1 dog is if your opponent has absolutely nothing, which will be the case rarely enough that you can assume you're a 2-1 dog in this spot.
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