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09-27-2005, 05:27 PM
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For those of you that play the Party 1/2 (low content)
Is it as bad as it looks? I just started watching it recently and I basically see the same 10 people every day, all day. These people have some stamina. I assume that almost of them are quite solid to be surviving, and some I know from having played with in the Stars game and at UB.
So the question is, is there any money to be made in this game, even 1BB/100? I'm kind of surprised I'm not seeing more short buy-ins taking "shots" or donking off the rest of their bankroll, but hardly anyone ever seems to get up from the game, so maybe that is why. Is this game crap, or have I been watching too small a sample? 
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#4
09-28-2005, 07:33 AM
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Re: For those of you that play the Party 1/2 (low content)
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[ QUOTE ] why not just datamine it? [/ QUOTE ] Haven't had a Party account. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] here: (Actual stats Random guy 21,224 hands VP$IP: 31.18 PFR: 19 BB/100: 2.90 Sessions: 126 (seems like he's playing short-handed alot) Winnings: $120K+ This guy is the biggest winner on my datamine of 100/200. There are people with winrates of 5-6 BB/100 over 6-8K hands though, so yes 1BB/100 is quite possible.
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#5
09-28-2005, 09:23 AM
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Re: For those of you that play the Party 1/2 (low content)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] why not just datamine it? [/ QUOTE ] Haven't had a Party account. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] here: (Actual stats Random guy 21,224 hands VP$IP: 31.18 PFR: 19 BB/100: 2.90 Sessions: 126 (seems like he's playing short-handed alot) Winnings: $120K+ This guy is the biggest winner on my datamine of 100/200. There are people with winrates of 5-6 BB/100 over 6-8K hands though, so yes 1BB/100 is quite possible. [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand why you think the data you have presented says anything about what win rates are quite possible.
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#6
09-28-2005, 10:34 AM
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Re: For those of you that play the Party 1/2 (low content)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] why not just datamine it? [/ QUOTE ] Haven't had a Party account. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] here: (Actual stats Random guy 21,224 hands VP$IP: 31.18 PFR: 19 BB/100: 2.90 Sessions: 126 (seems like he's playing short-handed alot) Winnings: $120K+ This guy is the biggest winner on my datamine of 100/200. There are people with winrates of 5-6 BB/100 over 6-8K hands though, so yes 1BB/100 is quite possible. [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand why you think the data you have presented says anything about what win rates are quite possible. [/ QUOTE ] 21K hands with a 2.9BB/100 winrate seems like he is a winning player. Here's his stats: VP$IP From SB: 44.66 Folded SB to steal: 55.49 Fold BB to steal: 43.87 Attempt to steal blinds; 43.36 Won $ WSF% : 39.05 Went to SD%: 44.11 won $ at SD% : 51.38 AF: Flop: 1.53 Turn: 1.32 River: 1.29 Folded to river bet: 31.89% (450/1411) C/R: 619 times (3.15% of possible action) Flop: 78.19 Turn: 17.29 River: 4.29
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#7
09-28-2005, 05:17 PM
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Re: For those of you that play the Party 1/2 (low content)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] why not just datamine it? [/ QUOTE ] Haven't had a Party account. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] here: (Actual stats Random guy 21,224 hands VP$IP: 31.18 PFR: 19 BB/100: 2.90 Sessions: 126 (seems like he's playing short-handed alot) Winnings: $120K+ This guy is the biggest winner on my datamine of 100/200. There are people with winrates of 5-6 BB/100 over 6-8K hands though, so yes 1BB/100 is quite possible. [/ QUOTE ] Interesting. I wouldn't think that game runs short very often being that there are only 2 tables with long lists to get on it. His stats seem extra DERBish to me for full table play, making me just scratch my head. I assume he is just on a heater, as it's a pretty small sample size. Nevertheless, there are a lot of these DERB types surviving/winning so maybe I need to relearn poker. BTW, not trying to open that can of worms again, but just find it interesting. Thanks for the post.
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#8
09-28-2005, 10:25 PM
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Re: For those of you that play the Party 1/2 (low content)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] why not just datamine it? [/ QUOTE ] Haven't had a Party account. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] here: (Actual stats Random guy 21,224 hands VP$IP: 31.18 PFR: 19 BB/100: 2.90 Sessions: 126 (seems like he's playing short-handed alot) Winnings: $120K+ This guy is the biggest winner on my datamine of 100/200. There are people with winrates of 5-6 BB/100 over 6-8K hands though, so yes 1BB/100 is quite possible. [/ QUOTE ] Interesting. I wouldn't think that game runs short very often being that there are only 2 tables with long lists to get on it. His stats seem extra DERBish to me for full table play, making me just scratch my head. I assume he is just on a heater, as it's a pretty small sample size. Nevertheless, there are a lot of these DERB types surviving/winning so maybe I need to relearn poker. BTW, not trying to open that can of worms again, but just find it interesting. Thanks for the post. [/ QUOTE ] So how many hands does it take where you can say that you are a winning player. I mean, I know that 20K hands is like a drop in the lake/ocean when it comes to varience in Limit hold-em, but it should give you some clue on how well you play.
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#9
09-27-2005, 05:39 PM
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Re: For those of you that play the Party 1/2 (low content)
too small of a sample.
That and when you get to the higher limits there are players with solid appearing stats who make lots of boneheaded plays. You have to start paying attention to how people play instead of looking at numbers. And also a lot of the regulars really aren't that great. 1bb/100 is a good target.
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