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Old 12-15-2005, 12:57 PM
maranello11 maranello11 is offline
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Default Re: Re-bluff: possible squeeze-bluff

This is not the right time to make this play. I think at best you are racing with the short stack so if you feel like it go ahead and make the play. I think you are putting to much thought into this hand, I think it is a better lay down than squeeze play. Just my 2 cents
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Old 12-15-2005, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: Re-bluff: possible squeeze-bluff

When the BB raises to 55 and is short this is not a bluff, most likely 77-1010 or AK maybe even JJ-AA. All of which he is going to call your bet with, which means at best 50-50. No way he makes this re-raise with A10, you only have AJ. I fold and find a better spot
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: Re-bluff: possible squeeze-bluff

Doesn't a sqeeze play imply that 1) an early position player initially raised with a solid hand.. 2) you call then 3) the SB reraises to 55 squeezing the early player who probably has a solid hand to fold because he is unsure of what YOU called with (might push after he calls..etc.)
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: Re-bluff: possible squeeze-bluff

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When the BB raises to 55 and is short this is not a bluff, most likely 77-1010 or AK maybe even JJ-AA. All of which he is going to call your bet with, which means at best 50-50. No way he makes this re-raise with A10, you only have AJ. I fold and find a better spot

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OP has JTo
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: Re-bluff: possible squeeze-bluff

there is no way he's folding TT-AA, AK, AQ...he may even call with 99...i don't see any point in giving a short stack action pf with a hand like JTo
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: Re-bluff: possible squeeze-bluff

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BB raises to 55.

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there’s ~$80 in the pot

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BB’s got around 130 left behind.

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Just fold. If he's any good, he's not folding any A, let alone a decent PP.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: Re-bluff: possible squeeze-bluff

mindflyer is right, this is not even a properly executed squeeze play. A squeeze play is where you are squeezing the caller of the initial raiser in between yourself and the inital raiser.

This is a squeeze play Hero raises to 12, laggy SB raises to 35 (could mean any two), loose bb calls (perceived weakness), you PUSH. SB folds, bb folds. The thinking is if you can get the inital raiser to fold so well the caller.

All your doing in this siutation is isolating the shortstack which is what the shortstack wants as he is happy to coinflip headsup with the chance of doubling up. Thing is with JT you are quite possibly way behind a LARGE part of his range. At best you are a slight dog in a coinflip here and very rarely is the shortstack ever folding as he is committed.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: Re-bluff: possible squeeze-bluff

You can't apply any sophisticated moves on these guys.

They beat you into the pot with ATo, sometimes Kj.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:23 PM
maranello11 maranello11 is offline
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Default Re: Re-bluff: possible squeeze-bluff

"Just fold. If he's any good, he's not folding any A, let alone a decent PP. "

Exactly my thought as well, you are putting to much thought into this play when you know it is an easy laydown.
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Old 12-15-2005, 04:12 PM
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mindflyer is right, this is not even a properly executed squeeze play.

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I meant the HE was squeezing. Seeing this, I basically try to bluff the bluffer here.

Sorry for the confusing language.
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