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Old 06-04-2005, 02:28 PM
LoaferGee12 LoaferGee12 is offline
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Default Re: JJ -- I\'m starting to hate this hand

Were you going to continue betting if a blank had come on the turn?
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Old 06-04-2005, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: JJ -- I\'m starting to hate this hand

Yes.
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Old 06-04-2005, 04:03 PM
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Default This one hand made me fall in love w/ JJ

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, CO folds.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (19.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 31.50 BB
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Old 06-04-2005, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: This one hand made me fall in love w/ JJ

Raising the flop is always an option. I think 3-betting the turn outta nowhere is more likely to shut out SB.
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Old 06-04-2005, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: This one hand made me fall in love w/ JJ

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Raising the flop is always an option. I think 3-betting the turn outta nowhere is more likely to shut out SB.

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SB is not going anywhere. Id probably raise the flop again. If I didnt, like Hero did here, I would definitly cap that turn. Especially after BB calls.
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Old 06-04-2005, 07:29 PM
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I disagree. There are two overcards on board, and the flush draw just got completed. I think there are very few additional free cards that you could be afraid of.

With our position, this would be a good spot to check through the turn and call a river bet hoping we induced a bluff if a 3rd overcard hadn't hit. As it is, I think calling the river is close.

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This is how u play it, right here. OP did the right move. You have two overcards, the flush hit...check the turn. K hits on the river, I fold. There are just far to many hands that beat u here to call the river.

He bet the flop, its HU, good move. UTG calls u, then the flush hits the turn. What does he have at this point that u beat. He may have been waiting for a CR, which I think it pretty much the only thing u are going to walk yourself into if u bet this turn.

So u either do the OP move. Bet/fold to a turn CR. Bet, and check down the river if u dont get raised.

Id bet the turn if the flush didnt hit.
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