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Old 12-03-2004, 08:29 PM
kinger kinger is offline
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Default Do you have the right odds to call this?

Do I have the odds to call here?

I am getting 2.25 to 1 to call. The raiser BigEFries was a super tight player, but his stack has gotten so low that he had to make a move soon. He was UTG with only 3 times the BB.

If he had QQ, KK, AA, I was 4-1 -EV
2 over cards 2-1 even EV
1 overcard 1 undercard +EV
1 overcard 1 in between card +EV
77,88,99,10 10 fairly even EV
under pair +EV


It turns out I was getting slightly negative EV. Considering the range of hands, do you call?

#Game No : 1254903762
***** Hand History for Game 1254903762 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:7624256 Level:12 Blinds (500/1000) - Friday, December 03, 18:06:17 EDT 2004
Table Multi-Table(152778) Table #2 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: bangkok1234 ( $38038 )
Seat 2: HAWKEYER ( $6384 )
Seat 3: rutta11 ( $12940 )
Seat 4: smilelarge ( $21459 )
Seat 5: TLT45 ( $2510 )
Seat 6: moestar ( $9265 )
Seat 7: kinger18 ( $10496 )
Seat 8: BigEFries ( $3005 )
Seat 9: lordhutty ( $20194 )
Seat 10: thequad ( $21698 )
Trny:7624256 Level:12
Blinds (500/1000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to kinger18 [ Jd 6s ]
rutta11: its nice when ur hands actually hold up for a change
BigEFries is all-In.
lordhutty folds.
thequad folds.
bangkok1234 folds.
HAWKEYER folds.
rutta11 folds.
smilelarge folds.
TLT45 folds.
moestar folds.
kinger18 calls [2005].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kd, 8h, Ks ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]
BigEFries shows [ 9d, 9h ] two pairs, kings and nines.
kinger18 shows [ Jd, 6s ] two pairs, kings and sixes.
BigEFries wins 6510 chips from the main pot with two pairs, kings and nines.
Game #1254906851 starts.
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Old 12-03-2004, 08:37 PM
TStoneMBD TStoneMBD is offline
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Default Re: Do you have the right odds to call this?

no, mathematically i dont call this here. assuming he has something decent here, you may be looking at AA AK AQ AJ KK QQ JJ KQ KJ which are clearly dominating you. He may have TT-66 in which your odds are still incorrect. You need for him to have a hand like A2 and then your call is good. There are far more hands that you are not getting correct odds to call this here if your odds are 2.25:1.

however, if a call is this close i may make it sometimes to show that i am willing to protect my bb so that players wont run me over.
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Old 12-03-2004, 08:52 PM
kinger kinger is offline
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Default Re: Do you have the right odds to call this?

what's the worst hand that you would call with?

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