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Old 05-16-2005, 11:43 AM
locutus2002 locutus2002 is offline
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Default AA UTG 5 callers

Bugsysclub $50+$5 Mid tournament.
100/200/25

My question is how too play AA in EP when: you have a bunch of callers, the stacks are deep, and the board is dangerous.

Table is not too tight. Stack sizes range from T12,000 to T25,000. The CO has me covered. Hero has T17,000 and is UTG with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Hero opens for T600. MP2 Calls, CO Calls, Button Calls, BB Calls.
Flop: J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Pot has T3,400. BB checks. Hero bets T3,400, Folded round to CO who raises to T6,800, folded round to Hero??

CO is a tight player, not likely to make a move, and has at least AJ here. Villain probably perceives Hero as capable of opening with two big clubs or AJ+. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 05-16-2005, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: AA UTG 5 callers

Push. You're going to hell if he has JJ anyhow.

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Old 05-16-2005, 12:39 PM
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Push. I think your PF raise was slightly small, but you still ended up heads up. Given your description of the opponent, you may well be behind, but this is a hand and situation to commit to.
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Old 05-16-2005, 01:16 PM
locutus2002 locutus2002 is offline
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Default Re: AA UTG 5 callers

If I push here he's folding AJ, and QQ. He's only calling KK, 22, 33.
I can't make him for JJ without raising PF.

I decided to call, and push a club, and check/call the rest. Is this too weak?
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Old 05-16-2005, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: AA UTG 5 callers

When stacks are deep and blinds are small try limping UTG with
pocket Aces. Hopefully somebody will raise and you can define
your hand better. With deep stacks some players will call with what seems like any two cards trying to bust you. If you limp and you don't like the flop then fold. Ain't no law that says you can't fold two Aces.

Bruce
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Old 05-16-2005, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: AA UTG 5 callers

Limping UTG with aces. Hmmm. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 05-16-2005, 02:02 PM
imported_torgeauxSA imported_torgeauxSA is offline
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I hate this answer. Mind you, I'm not saying it's wrong, I just hate it. In my limited experience, you get much more grief letting limpers call your AA than the increased profit. Really, what flop are you looking for versus several limpers? AAx? Sure. Axx rainbow? Yup. Any coordinated board? No. Paired board? No. Just knowing I might face three or four callers makes me uneasy as my probablity of winning plumets.
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Old 05-16-2005, 02:04 PM
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Check calling is giving them free/cheap cards to fill up their hand. Why would you push a club? Just curious, not necessarily disagreeing. This isn't that scary a board, despite his actions, so you may be too passive here.
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Old 05-16-2005, 02:16 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
Bugsysclub $50+$5 Mid tournament.
100/200/25

Hero opens for T600. MP2 Calls, CO Calls, Button Calls, BB Calls.


[/ QUOTE ]

So you raise to 3BBs UTG, and get 3 cold callers? I think I may download Bugsyclub today.
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Old 05-16-2005, 03:51 PM
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Your looking to reraise by limping.

You need to be able to fold AA if you catch a lousy flop ie.
678 of hearts and you have black Aces. If you can't fold AA
then don't ever do this. I only do this, and it's only sometimes, when it's early and my 3-4X raise means nothing
and they all come anyway and it's impossible to put them
on a hand. At a table where a raise means something then
I will raise with them.

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