Party Poker 0.50 / 1.00

[CanadianAmy]

So I played last night at PP for about 700 hands (actually at Eurobet) but it is the same thing.

After going through 10 tables, I quit and did a check to see what the average VPIP was for the night of all opponents (I think it is on the summary tab, but I don't recall for sure) and the average VPIP for the night of all my oponents was......29%!!!! WOW, I don't know what is going on there, but it is a rock garden at every table.

In all honesty a new book needs to be written to address this. If you look at a lot of the low limit literature out there, they talk about the games being loose with 5+ people seeing every pot, SHOW ME WHERE!?!?!? I rarely if ever see it above 35% now. I would like to see something where I can study that shows how to beat rock gardens.

Serious Question....is it time to start reading HEFAP? I was going to wait until I was past 2/4 and had 150,000 hands.

Amy

[eric5148]

1. 700 hands is not a big enough sample size.

2. Your table selection needs improvement.

3. Even if you're at a .5/1 table with a 29% VPIP, there is no way your opponents are playing well enough postflop to implement the strategy contained in HPFAP.

[DMBFan23]

why would you wait to read HPFAP?

and just because they are getting tighter does not mean they play well pre or postflop

[Ianco15]

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If you look at a lot of the low limit literature out there, they talk about the games being loose with 5+ people seeing every pot, SHOW ME WHERE!?!?!?

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Go play 3/6 at an Indian Casino. That's where.


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Serious Question....is it time to start reading HEFAP?

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Yes.

[XxGodJrxX]

29% is hardly a rock-garden. The 1/2 games which can be as low as the low-teens are closer to rock gardens. You do not need a new book, you just need to use logic to adjust. Suited Connectors and low-pocket pairs go down in value, high cards go up in value. Steal and bluff more. Be more aggressive.

Also, I find tables where everybody is loose as hell makes for extreme variance. I personally prefer a game where one or two players are extremely bad, and the rest are average players. But that is just me.

[Synergistic Explosions]

I agree with the OP. These games are not even close to what they were in the past. Not even worth the time except for clearing the bonuses.

[mmmmmbrother]

thw crypto .5/1 are usually above 50%

[obsidian]

I decided to screw around on the .5/1 a few weeks ago. The players were indeed tighter, but far from good. About as weak-tight as it comes. The players seriously had no clue what a value bet was.

[MaxPower]

The average VP$IP in the games I play in is 25% and they are not rock gardens.

You need to look at the SF%. You probably have and average of 3-4 people seeing the flop. That means there will be many flops seen by 5 or more people.

[kiemo]

The addition of 6 max tables really hurt the looseness of the 10 max tables at the .5/1 level.

If you came in thinking, wow easy money with 5 to the flop, and 3 to showndown every hand, you just have to adjust a bit as the players are still bad.