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Old 07-06-2005, 09:42 PM
SoBeDude SoBeDude is offline
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Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (7 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP2 calls.

River: (13.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero...
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Old 07-06-2005, 09:52 PM
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Old 07-06-2005, 09:53 PM
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Default Re: put in one more raise? Party 30/60

Hard to say with no info on MP2. He'd have to be pretty bad, but I still like your hand. I think it's worth 4 bets. If he shows you QQ, oh well.
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Old 07-06-2005, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: put in one more raise? Party 30/60

...moves all in.
what hand(s) do you put villain on? you're only losing to three hands QQ, 88 and Q8 and not a one seems likely given the betting sequence. i think your turn checkraise says "I've just made three Q's" after your flop call so villain could be 3-betting you with any Q, pocket pair 55-AA to test you and/or any flush. Easy river 3-bet.
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Old 07-06-2005, 09:59 PM
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Default Re: put in one more raise? Party 30/60

I take it MP2 is unknown?

I'm having a hard time putting him on anything that beats you. This guy raised preflop, so hands like Q8, Q3, and Q4 seem pretty unlikely. He has QQ, 33, or a flopped flush that cannot believe that he got beat. In fact, I think 33 is the most likely hand.

So yes, I would 3-bet, and I don't mind him capping.
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Old 07-07-2005, 12:00 AM
SoBeDude SoBeDude is offline
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...moves all in.
what hand(s) do you put villain on? you're only losing to three hands QQ, 88 and Q8 and not a one seems likely given the betting sequence. i think your turn checkraise says "I've just made three Q's" after your flop call so villain could be 3-betting you with any Q, pocket pair 55-AA to test you and/or any flush. Easy river 3-bet.

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but I capped and lead the turn. I've shown a lot of strength here.

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Old 07-07-2005, 12:42 AM
TiltsMcFabulous TiltsMcFabulous is offline
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Default Re: put in one more raise? Party 30/60

I am no expert, but it seems to me that fearing quads is seeing monsters under the bed. Fearing 88 after your turn action is similarly ridiculous. You appear to be in against AA, KK, AQ, KQ, or a flush. You beat every reasonable holding villian could have other than quads, so cap it. If you aren't capping here when villian is about 400-1 to make them, then when are you capping?

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Old 07-07-2005, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: put in one more raise? Party 30/60

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I am no expert, but it seems to me that fearing quads is seeing monsters under the bed. Fearing 88 after your turn action is similarly ridiculous. You appear to be in against AA, KK, AQ, KQ, or a flush. You beat every reasonable holding villian could have other than quads, so cap it. If you aren't capping here when villian is about 400-1 to make them, then when are you capping?

~ Tilts

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This is well said, basically given the action villian cannot have queens full. 88 is so unlikely it's ridiculous, so you're really only behind QQ, which means i'm putting in another raise.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: put in one more raise? Party 30/60

no, you bet out on the flop and called the raise. then C/R the turn. this isn't exactly what i'd call "a lot of strength", ie full house. if i was villain and had a flush i would gladly 3-bet the turn.
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Old 07-07-2005, 03:00 AM
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Default Re: put in one more raise? Party 30/60

Yes, 3bet. Preflop action is important here.
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