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Old 12-16-2005, 08:27 PM
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This kind of insanity at the 109s!!!!????

Good god.
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Old 12-16-2005, 08:28 PM
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I call. Never say never...but...

Never fold an overpair early in a SnG.

Edit: I mean PUSH! Must have been a misclick in my OP [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-16-2005, 08:32 PM
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I'd have pushed. The minraise means (meant) nothing and the bet is a classic probe. The call is a ten or some crap way more than a set.

I don't really *hate* your fold, but I hope you don't try it with queens.
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Old 12-16-2005, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: Action with Jacks an\' I\'m confused at the $109s

Yes there's no way the first guy to bet on this flop has anything much. A ten, and that's it. The middle guy is perhaps a minor worry/irritant, but without any reads on him I'm certainly not putting him on QQ+ or a set. If he was a known decent player, that's when I would seriously consider folding.
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Old 12-16-2005, 09:08 PM
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Default Re: Action with Jacks an\' I\'m confused at the $109s

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I'd have pushed. The minraise means (meant) nothing and the bet is a classic probe. The call is a ten or some crap way more than a set.

I don't really *hate* your fold, but I hope you don't try it with queens.

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Interestingly enough, I put one of them on QQ, so if I hold QQ, I probably don't fold.
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Old 12-16-2005, 10:10 PM
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However, talk seems to be dying. I folded, hating it. SB had 99 and caller(MP1?) had KTo. They got it all-in on the turn. And I was afraid of the $109s!

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Sweet Jesus. That has got to be an anomaly. Part of the reason to fold that hand is saying "Well, they can't both be that stupid. Someone has to have something better than a weak overpair to pot committ themselves on the flop." In general, I think folding here is prudent.
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Old 12-16-2005, 11:20 PM
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However, talk seems to be dying. I folded, hating it. SB had 99 and caller(MP1?) had KTo. They got it all-in on the turn. And I was afraid of the $109s!

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Sweet Jesus. That has got to be an anomaly. Part of the reason to fold that hand is saying "Well, they can't both be that stupid. Someone has to have something better than a weak overpair to pot committ themselves on the flop." In general, I think folding here is prudent.

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Yeah, we're getting results oriented here. Just because these two happened to be donks, doesn't mean the "average" 109 players would be making these plays. I agree 100% with the assertion above. Many timse I think, BOTH of these two can't be complete idiots. Well, yes, apparently even at the 109s....
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