how's my river play?

zPro · #1 11-16-2005, 03:48 AM

Just sat down, no reads.

Ultimate Bet 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls.

Flop: (9 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB folds, MP1 calls.

River: (9.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button folds, MP1 raises, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

tyler_cracker · #2 11-16-2005, 03:54 AM

I don't fold to river check/raises enough. Nice hand.

#3 11-16-2005, 04:02 AM

very bad IMO but i might be wrong.

The pot is already 12.5BB, might as well call. If he has A3o then so be it. You only ahve to win like 8% of the time (I didn't do the math) to make this call profitable.

If he had the A, why would he wait till the turn to raise/bet?

#4 11-16-2005, 04:11 AM

Confused noob wonders...

You think he has an ace? And he slowplayed the flop AND the turn?

Are you 92%+ sure about it despite the fact that you have "no reads"? 92% sure is real darn sure.

(Corrected to take out bogus argument about AT and A9s.)

zPro · #5 11-16-2005, 05:17 AM

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Confused noob wonders...

You think he has an ace? And he slowplayed the flop AND the turn?

Are you 92%+ sure about it despite the fact that you have "no reads"? 92% sure is real darn sure.

(Corrected to take out bogus argument about AT and A9s.)

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I've been thinking about this for a while.
I'm 95% sure he has a weak ace.
At these limits, I don't see anyone check-raising the PF raiser on the river w/o an ace.
I played it like I held an ace.

I also see how calling the c/r is acceptable.
He could be straight up bluffing, have a Queen, even some low PP.
Good stuff to think about when moving up limits.

Weatherhead03 · #6 11-16-2005, 05:25 AM

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If he had the A, why would he wait till the turn to raise/bet?

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The people we play against dont know and do the things we do. People in the micros tend to be very passive.

In this particular hand im 95% sure that villian called the turn and river with a weak ace and had Hero beat the whole way. I like the river fold.

#7 11-16-2005, 05:58 AM

He has a weak Ace and slowplayed the turn and river because he thought Hero had a stronger Ace, because of his raise preflop.
After the second ace he realises there is only a small chance Hero has an Ace and decides to raise.

Like already has been said, the players on those limits are very passive.

#8 11-16-2005, 08:01 AM

I dont like the river fold.

BoogerFace · #9 11-16-2005, 10:26 AM

*grunch*

I'm calling this river, pot is too big.

jaxUp · #10 11-16-2005, 10:30 AM

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After the second ace he realises there is only a small chance Hero has an Ace and decides to raise.

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I am very certain villain here has an ace as well, but this isn't even his reasoning. His reasoning is now: "I have three of a kind instead of a pair, three of a kind is way better than a pair" In situations like this, at this level, villain is rarely considering hero's range, and only the absolute value of their hand.