Flop dealt without burning : ruling?

FatLoser · #1 09-29-2005, 03:36 PM

Playing in a tournament. Me and another player to the flop, the dealer does not burn and just deals the flop. What should the correct ruling be?

1) Nothing happens, play continues.
2) Deal another flop card and burn the exposed card that should have been burned in the first place.
3) Reshuffle, burn, and deal a new flop.
4) None of the above, here is what should happen... (fill in)

crunchy1 · #2 09-29-2005, 03:41 PM

Treat the first card off the top of the deck as an exposed card, let everyone at the table know what card it was and burn it. Deal one more card off the top of the deck to complete the flop. Proceed as normal.

#3 09-29-2005, 03:54 PM

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Treat the first card off the top of the deck as an exposed card, let everyone at the table know what card it was and burn it. Deal one more card off the top of the deck to complete the flop. Proceed as normal.

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FatLoser · #4 09-29-2005, 05:58 PM

I don't play much these days so I guess I have made an ass out of myself then. I was sure that when there was still betting to take place the flop was in play once it was dealt, regardless of whether the dealer burned or not. I thought it was only in allin situations mistakes such as this were corrected.

#5 09-29-2005, 05:30 PM

4) Burn the dealer

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logistik · #6 09-29-2005, 05:32 PM

Shuffle and re deal

#7 09-29-2005, 07:15 PM

First, every casino (or tournament) has their own rules and some of them may differ on how a situation is handled.

But I went to dealer school, and the standard solution would be that the first card is treated as the burn card, just that it has been exposed, and an addition card is dealt to the 2nd and 3rd to complete the flop. It is exactly the same result as what should of happened with the exception that all players now know one card that that has been burnt and is out of the hand.

I feel that any other way of handling this would be wrong. I would suggest though, that if there is ever an issue like this that arises, and there is a disagreement on how it will be handled, call the floor immediately. Sometimes dealers deal in multiple casinos where there are different policies.

pudley4 · #8 09-29-2005, 09:50 PM

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I would suggest though, that if there is ever an issue like this that arises, and there is a disagreement on how it will be handled, call the floor immediately

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Even if the dealer knows exactly the correct procedure, he should still call the floor anytime there's an irregularity like this.

#9 09-29-2005, 10:52 PM

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Even if the dealer knows exactly the correct procedure, he should still call the floor anytime there's an irregularity like this.

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I'm not sure how it works at your job, but in most jobs, you don't get very far calling for your boss every time there is an irregularity. Especially when there is standard procedures in place.