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Old 10-17-2005, 03:58 PM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Re: Things you remind yourself of while you play

Nice thread. My rotation includes:

--good cards, good decisions.
--make the best decisions, one by one.
--don't get fancy, ABC poker wins.
--stack somebody.
--be patient, wait for the right opportunities.
--keep your mouth shut!!! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: Things you remind yourself of while you play

Great thread. Here are some that I've read/kept:

Decisions not outcomes.
Be amazingly disciplined.
Knowledge without discipline is wasted.
Patience.
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: Things you remind yourself of while you play

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(all else being equal), stats can be very useful.

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True, but all else is not equal in practice, in my experience.

An illustration. A new SSNL poster comes to the forum and posts his stats. They are thusly:

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Hands: 350
VPIP: 35
PFR: 5
BB/100: 65


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He asks if his winrate is sustainable, and do his stats look ok. What is your reply?

The only correct response is: "your sample is too small." VPIP converges quickly, that's true enough. But even it needs more than 350 hands to indicate a pattern. If he even played 10 fewer hands, his VPIP goes down to 28. Not only is it possible that our Hero got 10 more pocket pairs over 350 hands than is usual, it's not at all unlikely.

But now when we play live, we tend to evaluate our opponents based on even smaller samples. PA will tell you an opponents stats over as few as 10 hands. But those numbers have no meaning whatsoever. Every one of us could fine numerous contiguous blocks where our VPIP over 10 hands was either 100 or 0. What does that tell you of the quality of your play? What does it say about your tendancies? The answer is: nothing.

I might seem a little extremist on my harping here, but I've said many other things before that at first got a negative response. After a while, I think you'll see I'm right.

To take this one step further, I'll issue a challenge to all SSNL posters. Uninstall PokerAce (or whatever gizmo you use) for 5,000 hands. Continue to use PokerTracker to automatically import your sessions, but don't use any stats when you play.

If you do this for 5,000 hands, I predict you'll find 2 results:

1) You play fewer tables at once.
2) Your game will noticably improve.

This is a challenge, not a contest. No rewards except those you earn for yourself.
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:12 PM
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--stack somebody.
--be patient, wait for the right opportunities.

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Don't these two tend to neutralize each other?
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:17 PM
Bco1/75 Bco1/75 is offline
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Default Re: Things you remind yourself of while you play

This one is geared more towards Tournament, but can apply to ring.

"There is plenty of poker to play"
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: Things you remind yourself of while you play

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--stack somebody.
--be patient, wait for the right opportunities.

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Don't these two tend to neutralize each other?

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Ummm, Errr, I dunno. I have to remind myself to go for someones stack because I often find myself betting to get called, instead of betting enough early in the hand to make it OK for villian to get his stack in late in the hand. I'm patient, looking for the right situations, to get my stack in the middle and get called. Not going willy-nilly LAGGY-waggy about it. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:22 PM
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wait at least 7 seconds before I put all my money in this pot.
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:25 PM
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I gotcha. I misunderstood the meaning behind "stack somebody". I guess you could combine the two in to:

"Be patient, wait for the right spot, then take his whole stack." This is, in my limited understanding, the definition of good value-oriented no-limit poker.
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:27 PM
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Default Re: Things you remind yourself of while you play

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"Never bluff". My new PT DB is called 'New Leaf'. I am never bluffing now that I have turned my new leaf. (Of course I am still bluffing, but way way way WAY less than I used to. And I am crushing the games. I've never won so much in my life as I have since I have really REALLY cut down on bluffing.)

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Holy [censored] that is beyond wierd. I had a new database as well. I named it sage leaf (play on tree of knowledge and new leaf).
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:28 PM
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The only motto I have is "WWJD" and I dont mean the one that walks on water.

Basically it reminds me to think like a pro... and get a new hat before I go to Vegas next.
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