i got my post deleted?

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Party states that they seperated the player base because they want to promote their casino platform. That may be true, but the skin/rakeback issue had to be a factor.

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The Party CEO also said this last month...

"...We have over 5,000 active affiliates...which is a core strength within our marketing armoury."

"...There were some very compelling reasons for us having skins when the business started, to drive player liquidity. Those compelling reasons don't exist today..."

[Guthrie]

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Obviously the Affiliate/RB forum sucks and is not in the best interest of 2+2ers. Its a sponsored forum, you're not going to get the best information and people are going to abuse their powers.

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All these sponsored forums probably sounded like a good idea going in, but it's now obvious they are worthless to the users. If 2+2 needs more revenue to run the board, I'd much rather just pay an annual fee for access and be done with all the self-serving "moderating."

[stoxtrader]

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Did you read the first 2 sentences then stop?

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...Like he said, it is well known that rakeback is currently being offered. What isn't known is how safe it is or if it is official. If his approach was more informative and less of an ad, then we would have left it up.


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Here are some answers that would have been helpful for him to answer:

1. Have you discussed this directly with an affiliate manager
2 Are you working directly with PartyPoker or with a 3rd party
3. Do you have any confirmation that this is something that Party won't try to stop in the near future? If so, why not provide it?
4. Do you have any information on the alternative that Party is creating and how it will affect the rakeback you're giving?
5. Can I borrow $50?

From what I've seen, affiliates are blinded by the rush to grab market share and are showing little concern for the long term ramifications of their actions. Are these recent actions not a wake-up call? Party has seperated itself from the skins because of rakeback. They axed individual tracking because of rakeback. Only in the last month has the individual tracking been re-opened, but that's only for existing trackers. New trackers have to wait 60 days before the stats can be seen.

These are not the actions of a company that seems to be willing to offer rakeback under the table.


Cup

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please at least give me some credit

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Did you read the first 2 sentences then stop?

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...Like he said, it is well known that rakeback is currently being offered. What isn't known is how safe it is or if it is official. If his approach was more informative and less of an ad, then we would have left it up.


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Here are some answers that would have been helpful for him to answer:

1. Have you discussed this directly with an affiliate manager
2 Are you working directly with PartyPoker or with a 3rd party
3. Do you have any confirmation that this is something that Party won't try to stop in the near future? If so, why not provide it?
4. Do you have any information on the alternative that Party is creating and how it will affect the rakeback you're giving?
5. Can I borrow $50?

From what I've seen, affiliates are blinded by the rush to grab market share and are showing little concern for the long term ramifications of their actions. Are these recent actions not a wake-up call? Party has seperated itself from the skins because of rakeback. They axed individual tracking because of rakeback. Only in the last month has the individual tracking been re-opened, but that's only for existing trackers. New trackers have to wait 60 days before the stats can be seen.

These are not the actions of a company that seems to be willing to offer rakeback under the table.


Cup

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please at least give me some credit

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that's all from Sept?? insane

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That's sick!

[Lloyd]

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The information stox provides in this post is of minimal use to a player... It is dangerous.

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Someone may post in MTT that you should fold Aces if a bunch of people go all-in in front of you to avoid busting out, but I'm not going to delete the post even if I think it's dangerous and of minimal value. Buyer beware. Present both sides and let people make up their own mind. I understand that a direct link or advertisement should be removed (but not the entire post) but beyond that I think (almost) anything goes. And if somebody is truly attacking an offer he's making or his business ethics than he should certainly have a chance to address the remarks and explain what he's doing.

As a customer of Stox, I can say with all honesty that he is very very good as an affiliate. He is also very helpful on the TITN message boards.

Honestly, from my dealings with him, he would get my business at a few % less then the competition. He pays on time, every time (usually sooner). He also responds to support requests very quickly.

I would highly recommend him. PM me if you have any questions.

Margon

(I don't have any associate with the site, other than as a user)

[NLSoldier]

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Did you read the first 2 sentences then stop?

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...Like he said, it is well known that rakeback is currently being offered. What isn't known is how safe it is or if it is official. If his approach was more informative and less of an ad, then we would have left it up.


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Here are some answers that would have been helpful for him to answer:

1. Have you discussed this directly with an affiliate manager
2 Are you working directly with PartyPoker or with a 3rd party
3. Do you have any confirmation that this is something that Party won't try to stop in the near future? If so, why not provide it?
4. Do you have any information on the alternative that Party is creating and how it will affect the rakeback you're giving?
5. Can I borrow $50?

From what I've seen, affiliates are blinded by the rush to grab market share and are showing little concern for the long term ramifications of their actions. Are these recent actions not a wake-up call? Party has seperated itself from the skins because of rakeback. They axed individual tracking because of rakeback. Only in the last month has the individual tracking been re-opened, but that's only for existing trackers. New trackers have to wait 60 days before the stats can be seen.

These are not the actions of a company that seems to be willing to offer rakeback under the table.


Cup

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please at least give me some credit

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that's all from Sept?? insane

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its not all from sept....he said it was a continuation of his last one which i believe started around june.

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"pay their customers the back rakeback for the time they could not see the individual trackers, once they could see them again?! "

Good point, but know for myself that i divided it during the time beeing, the players played with the existing cricumstances and was satisified with that. As the money is spent (on the players) the affiliate cant hardly be asked to devide them once more... [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]