Call? Raise? Turn? interesting on all streets.

ReadyEddie · #1 08-07-2005, 05:38 PM

MP2 = 25/3.3 over 30 hands
Rest of the table seems pretty average 2/4 players.
No good reads really.

I thought the action was interesting on all streets so ill post the turn after i get some unbiased flop comments

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 bets, MP3 folds, Hero....?

stoli · #2 08-07-2005, 05:44 PM

This is a pretty interesting situation with that many players in and a rag flop. I am giving full 3 outs for the aces, 2 for the threes, and 1.5 for the backdoor flush. With what the pot is laying here I'm at least calling but I think I'd probably be raising. I'm remembering the intro to post-flop play in sshe.

roundhouse · #3 08-07-2005, 07:08 PM

I raise to get it HU with position.

RH

ReadyEddie · #4 08-07-2005, 08:11 PM

Yeah i thought it was a very clear raise on the flop...
[bump]

ReadyEddie · #5 08-07-2005, 08:13 PM

And this is how the action played out...

Flop: (6.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 bets, MP3 folds, Hero raises, Button folds, BB folds, UTG folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero..?

#6 08-07-2005, 08:43 PM

i'd fold here. no help on the turn and he probably has A6s, 76s or even worse low-mid PP which could mean a boat which leaves you drawing dead. i doubt he'd bet into you with anything worse than A3 on the turn after being raised on the flop.

agree?

four eight suited · #7 08-07-2005, 08:56 PM

I agree with raising here, this helps define others hands behind you and will probably get it heads up, which is what I would like with these marginal holdings.

Am I the only one that would fold this preflop? I understand there are a lot of people and good odds, but even so, this isnt the flop you are looking for. Maybe a 2 pair or pair and flush draw is what im looking for. The way I was taught limit was to avoid cold calling as much as possible, always be raising. I have been folding my Axs if im not opening the action from LP or calling 1 bet from the blinds with plenty of friends tagging along.

ejay · #8 08-07-2005, 09:00 PM

there is no way i fold here preflop. There has been 3 limpers in front of you and you have good position. I think that folding this hand ( and similar hands like this) in lp with three limpers is a definte mistake.

ReadyEddie · #9 08-07-2005, 09:01 PM

No way, i play my Axs from LP with this many limpers all the time. I would'nt cc a raise PF, but i just limped in. And even if the flop comes total crap (which this one isnt) the times you hit vs this many limpers will cover the times you miss.

ArturiusX · #10 08-07-2005, 09:06 PM

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Am I the only one that would fold this preflop? I understand there are a lot of people and good odds, but even so, this isnt the flop you are looking for. Maybe a 2 pair or pair and flush draw is what im looking for. The way I was taught limit was to avoid cold calling as much as possible, always be raising. I have been folding my Axs if im not opening the action from LP or calling 1 bet from the blinds with plenty of friends tagging along.

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Hold Em is not a raise or fold game.